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InvisibleMankey
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Salvia Question
    #7991081 - 02/07/08 10:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This plant is extremely healthy except for these two new leaves. I don't know what its from or what to make of it.


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: Mankey]
    #7991229 - 02/07/08 11:16 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Looks like it got cut or bit off...

I think it will be ok.


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7991382 - 02/07/08 12:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks. I think it'll be okay too. I'm wondering more about the texture.


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: Mankey]
    #7991716 - 02/07/08 01:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Could be a deformity, too much light or fertilizer.
Those are just guesses though, I think they can cause deformities on salvia leaves.


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: sms_sms]
    #7998613 - 02/08/08 11:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

looks healthy, see if it turns any funny colors. if so, it its not in perfect health. if not, its fine.


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: biospun]
    #7998653 - 02/09/08 12:03 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

get a magnifing glass and look ontop and on bottom of the leaf, if you see bugs you have your answer...if not you eliminated one


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7998804 - 02/09/08 12:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yup... tiny tiny tiny white bugs. Would safer(sp) soap work on those guys?


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: Mankey]
    #7998904 - 02/09/08 01:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

sounds like spider mites, safer soap is your best bet in my experience. Spray it about once a week for 2 months striaght. Watch for burning of the plant and adjust accordingly

if you don't spray constistintly as mentioned above, all you will kill is the adult spider mites, the eggs will hatch and repopulate.

Spider mites are pretty much the equivilent of the plague or the borg.


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7998955 - 02/09/08 01:40 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

actually if you do a search for spider mites you will find their life cycle, you should look to see how long for the egg's to hatch , i think its 4-5 days so you may need to spray 2x a week or however many you can get away with, without damaging the plant to much


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7999406 - 02/09/08 08:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Alright, thanks a bunch. My soil always seems to get infested.


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: Mankey]
    #7999445 - 02/09/08 09:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i have used safer soap sprays many times with very bad results, i even had a bunch of plants die and the safer brand sprays kill cacti/succulents .

best stuff i have used is Avid , magash told me about it and i got some and it works great.


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: royer]
    #7999624 - 02/09/08 10:37 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

And with any soap you use on sallies, you should make sure to give the leaves a good flush to remove the soap after the soap serves its purpose. Soap can clog up the stomata, restricting the ability of the leaves to absorb moisture. This could be a risky for a plant that likes as much humidity as salv. div.


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: biospun]
    #8000311 - 02/09/08 02:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

maybe safer refined their formula, i recently sprayed a few months ago according to the back of the bottle and i just had minor burning of the leaf tips. But it killed the mites instintly, its the dam eggs that keep hatching and then reproducing that makes mites so hard to get rid of

also safer has many different types of sprays so many some are stronger than others/ more damaging to certain plants, the one that i used was for roses

#1 tips when using sprays is to test just one leaf and see what happens first, then spray the entire plant after you know the results


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #8000399 - 02/09/08 02:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Alright guys, thanks alot. Are avid and safer things one could find locally or should I order online?


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: Mankey]
    #8000803 - 02/09/08 04:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i was lucky enough to find safer at a local hardware chain


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #8001351 - 02/09/08 05:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

any garden supply or hydro store should have it


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8002200 - 02/09/08 07:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

problem solved then :smile:


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: biospun]
    #8003936 - 02/10/08 09:10 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

enzyme sprays are the BEST.
they dissolve the exoskeletons of insects and dissolve the eggs too.
bye bye bugs
the other spays bugs can develop a resistance and create superbugs.
not good at all
what kills superbugs??? ENZYME SPRAYS


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Re: Salvia Question *DELETED* [Re: cpw1971]
    #8003984 - 02/10/08 09:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Salvia Question [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8004213 - 02/10/08 11:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Bugzyme...
BugZyme is a biodegradable bug destroyer that contains kelp compounds. It is effective in eliminating soft bodied insects such as aphids, spider mites, whiteflies, aphids and thrips. Kills bugs not brain cells! Completely non-toxic and biodegradable. Completely safe for all plants, people and pets. Bugzyme Natural Pest Control is also a rich source of vitamins and minerals, which are known to accelerate plant growth, increase fruiting and flowering, and enhance overall plant strength


Edited by cpw1971 (02/10/08 11:13 AM)


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: cpw1971]
    #8004969 - 02/10/08 02:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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Bugzyme...
BugZyme is a biodegradable bug destroyer that contains kelp compounds. It is effective in eliminating soft bodied insects such as aphids, spider mites, whiteflies, aphids and thrips. Kills bugs not brain cells! Completely non-toxic and biodegradable. Completely safe for all plants, people and pets. Bugzyme Natural Pest Control is also a rich source of vitamins and minerals, which are known to accelerate plant growth, increase fruiting and flowering, and enhance overall plant strength




Wonder who hes in bed with...j/k


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: cactiguy]
    #8005524 - 02/10/08 05:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

huh???


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: cpw1971]
    #8005686 - 02/10/08 05:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sound like a spokesmen,,,,but any who think it will work on box elder bugs


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: cactiguy]
    #8005726 - 02/10/08 06:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

first ive ever heard of emzyme sprays, happen to know which emzyme they use?


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #8006605 - 02/10/08 09:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yes it is called Bugzyme

and cactiguy..
I actually pasted the text from the description of the product. I am no spokesman but I know for a fact enzymes kill bugs. Look up "Enzyme cleaner and bugs"
theres lots of products like that one. look up kleen free enzyme cleaner.
I dont know what Box Elder bugs are but I bet it would work. If not try Diatomaceous Earth for another non pesticidal product. That one slices their exoskeletons open and they bleed out their insides and die.


Edited by cpw1971 (02/10/08 09:26 PM)


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: cpw1971]
    #8006612 - 02/10/08 09:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ok but i think i fixed my box elder bug problem i took some stuff called 7 and used the bottle to smash the bugs...


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: cactiguy]
    #8006647 - 02/10/08 09:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

lol


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: cpw1971]
    #8006804 - 02/10/08 10:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Good luck killing off a spider mite infestation like that. lolz


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: Mankey]
    #8007056 - 02/10/08 11:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hahah...


I also recommend running the plant under water to rinse away as many bugs/eggs as you can before applying your insecticide. I've actually watered my soil with safer's soap to clear it up. I've had it work without killing the plant. I agree it's not very orthodox, but the outcome was positive.


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: blazed123]
    #8077069 - 02/27/08 12:38 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I believe that your unortodox method i quite sound, blazed :smile:


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Re: Salvia Question [Re: biospun]
    #8077146 - 02/27/08 01:00 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

my kratoms leaves do that when it gets too much superthrive/ferts.


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