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Re: Brass tacks [Re: deranger]
    #7996477 - 02/08/08 02:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Language is just a tool. If used right, it can even break barriers.
At least that's why it originally has developed.


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Re: Brass tacks [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7996510 - 02/08/08 02:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yes, certain barriers...


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Re: Brass tacks [Re: deranger]
    #7997483 - 02/08/08 06:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Language creates barriers more than it breaks them down.


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Re: Brass tacks [Re: Icelander]
    #7999549 - 02/09/08 10:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The mirage has me (struggling survivor) convinced.


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Re: Brass tacks [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7999654 - 02/09/08 10:48 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

what about the part of you that isn't a struggling survivor?

does there even exist such a thing? how would you know if you have not experience it? :confused:

is there a way we can condition this part of us into our reality?


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Re: Brass tacks [Re: deranger]
    #7999692 - 02/09/08 11:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

"does there even exist such a thing? how would you know if you have not experience it? :confused:

is there a way we can condition this part of us into our reality?"

I believe I have experienced such a thing...
Just that I pursued IT with complete disregard for everything else.
How do you bring IT with you??
How do you even map it out and pin it down??

I think the reality of the structure of the ego and ego death are a good place to start the conditioning.


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Re: Brass tacks [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7999990 - 02/09/08 12:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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backfromthedead said:How do you bring IT with you??
How do you even map it out and pin it down??




it's tough... i guess practice, focus and effortless effort is what bring rise to more of IT.

can't really say i can map it out and pin it down, it comes unexpectedly and spontaneously.  and the more it comes the more i become familiar with it and the more it grows within me. 

I think the reality of the structure of the ego and ego death are a good place to start the conditioning.

as well, i don't know where i would be without ego death.  it has separated me from the majority of society's mindset which is hard at times but it is very liberating.  but this should be expected :laugh: just need to find the right place in all of this chaos.


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Re: Brass tacks [Re: deranger]
    #8000012 - 02/09/08 12:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

right on


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Re: Brass tacks [Re: Middleman]
    #8000156 - 02/09/08 01:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Language creates barriers more than it breaks them down.



I don't think so. What would we be without (spoken/written) language and the ability to use and form it ?
We would 'hardly' understand each other.


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Re: Brass tacks [Re: Icelander]
    #8000979 - 02/09/08 04:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Bureaucrat: "I insist we take up the tax!"
Groucho: "I insist we take up the carpet."
Bureaucrat: "I insist we take up the tax!"
Groucho: "You're right. We have to take up the tacks before we take up the carpet."


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Re: Brass tacks [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #8001099 - 02/09/08 04:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

What about the Sanity Claus?


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Re: Brass tacks [Re: Icelander]
    #8003082 - 02/09/08 11:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Icelander said:
What about the Sanity Claus?




Harpo: "HONK, HONK."


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Re: Brass tacks [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #8003976 - 02/10/08 09:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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BlueCoyote said:
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Middleman said:
Language creates barriers more than it breaks them down.



I don't think so. What would we be without (spoken/written) language and the ability to use and form it ?




there would be less identification with our program, which is a side product of today's language and the way we are conditioned by it.

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We would 'hardly' understand each other.




yes at an egotistical level. but from an empathetic, affectionate level i highly doubt that.


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Re: Brass tacks [Re: deranger]
    #8008174 - 02/11/08 10:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

At least, the possibility to lie would be much harder :smile:
But all message boards had to be closed :sigh:


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