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A though experiment: dosing lower and lower until..
    #7990553 - 02/07/08 05:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I just read this post about dosing a single gram and was thinking about that. Some people really need more to be able to let go, and others can have the same profitable experience with only a low dose.

-Now I'm not talking about visuals here, just about the mental state and insights trips can give you-

I think that it's possible to take a little less each time you trip and, because you still 'remember' how to let go and dive into your mind, you can do with a little less every time.

Now this is probably only going to work when you trip kind of regularly (I don't), since the longer you didn't trip the harder the come up/and letting go could be. Ofcoarse this has also a LOT to do with set and setting, if not everything.

Now while training yourself letting go easier on steadily decreasing dosages each time, to just reach the clear state of mind you're looking for (similar to meditation I guess.. never really tried hard enough, but now I've bought a pocket guide so I should start meditating sometime soon!  ..hey I'm procastrinating again :smirk:), it should become easier every time, until you almost don't need shrooms, or other psychedelics, anymore. And, maybe even nothing at all, but just alittle effort in concetrating.

Ofcoarse you wouldn't be tripping now, or would you (in a way)!?

The same state of mind could, as I stated earlier, probably be reached trough meditation.

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Re: A though experiment: dosing lower and lower until.. [Re: stefan]
    #7990723 - 02/07/08 07:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i think that the insights gained from trips tend to stay with me for a few days and actually build on each other (certain truths are firmly realized while misconceptions are rejected). often the real meaning behind what is learned during a trip may not manifest itself until post-trip reflections.

that being said, i love low doses, and i believe that they too are powerful experiences (the confusion and anxiety of >3.5g can be too much sometimes). i have meditated and stretched many times on low doses- it feels great! the tranquility, clarity, and relaxation leave me with a sense of well being. my last heavy dose ~7g had me thinking WTF (after the fact it seemed like a waste).

now on the subject of meditation, it seems that there different interpretations on how to go about it. some meditation focuses on clearing the mind, some on contemplating life and death, some on connecting to the great creator. other meditation may be geared toward attaining specific goals. group meditation may be helpful when first starting out, but i find individual experiences more rewarding and serene.

the use of psychedelics to many of us are akin to "going to church". i rarely (if ever) use psychedelics in public places and almost always try to contemplate my position in life while partaking. it is this respect towards them that should bleed positivity into your everyday life.


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Re: A though experiment: dosing lower and lower until.. [Re: stefan]
    #7990724 - 02/07/08 07:59 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

stefan said:
The same state of mind could, as I stated earlier, probably be reached trough meditation.





Yepp :thumbup:


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Re: A though experiment: dosing lower and lower until.. [Re: Divinatory]
    #7990934 - 02/07/08 09:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well, you can program yourself to enter certain states. For example, you've seen meditating people put their fingers and thumb togther. You train yourself while under meditation that putting your fingers and thumbs together will bring you back to a meditative state. AND, there have been documented cases of people under hypnosis developing welts when told that they are being burnt. So, going into a "trip" like state isn't that far fetched.

But, it takes dedication to train yourself to do such things. Personally, I need the time off. I'll take a shroom when I want to trip. But, I have noticed that my sensitivity to psilocybin has increased through the years. 1 - 1.5 grams of Cambodians is plenty for me.


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Re: A though experiment: dosing lower and lower until.. [Re: 04281969]
    #7990990 - 02/07/08 10:03 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

it's all set and setting...

I did an experiment last weekend where I took .5 each day and increased the dosage by .5 each day...

I found the .5 experience was a more positive experience than the day after with 1 gram...this was all set and setting...the 1 gram trip was weird because I took the mushrooms without even thinking about it...when I started to feel it I forgot that I took them so that time I was kind of taken back a little...but all in all a good experience....you can still get into those doors without seeing your face melt


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Re: A though experiment: dosing lower and lower until.. [Re: Divinatory]
    #7994869 - 02/08/08 03:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well I should start meditating then :yesnod:

Set and setting are most important, I agree!


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Re: A though experiment: dosing lower and lower until.. [Re: Bend the Bong]
    #7995260 - 02/08/08 08:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Bend the Bong said:
it's all set and setting...

I did an experiment last weekend where I took .5 each day and increased the dosage by .5 each day...

I found the .5 experience was a more positive experience than the day after with 1 gram...this was all set and setting...the 1 gram trip was weird because I took the mushrooms without even thinking about it...when I started to feel it I forgot that I took them so that time I was kind of taken back a little...but all in all a good experience....you can still get into those doors without seeing your face melt




Well even though .5 is not much, tolerance played a huge factor in that experiment.


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