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Offlinecasgoodie
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Re: Coca plant [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7994687 - 02/08/08 01:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yea good post. i found a few sites that sell coca leaves in all forms, teas, creams, leaves in andean handmade bags, leaves in plastic bags etc. the prices were listed in dollars so was thinking it was aimed at the american market...but i am still in doubt if ordering leaves is legal or not. i would grow them but even for chewing i dont have enough indoor space to grow enough to consume


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Re: Coca plant [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7995000 - 02/08/08 06:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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It is possible to obtain E. nova plants.




e. novo !! where do you get NOVA


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Re: Coca plant [Re: royer]
    #7995017 - 02/08/08 06:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I'd LOVE to have a little Nova bush... I've been looking for nice stimulant to add to my collection.


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Re: Coca plant [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7995018 - 02/08/08 06:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

again it is Erythroxylum novogranatense E.NOVO


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Re: Coca plant [Re: royer]
    #7996320 - 02/08/08 01:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Coca plant [Re: Mankey]
    #7999745 - 02/09/08 11:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm actually originally from bolivia and they sell the leaves there out of 5 gallon trash bags in little roadside stands, along with some other crap to make into a nice quid. the leaves are everywhere and are definitely not illegal.
anyway the point is im going back down later this year and i'd be willing to bring back some souvenirs...for the sake of science and ethno advancement


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Re: Coca plant [Re: AtticusProphet]
    #7999939 - 02/09/08 12:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm actually originally from bolivia and they sell the leaves there out of 5 gallon trash bags in little roadside stands, along with some other crap to make into a nice quid. the leaves are everywhere and are definitely not illegal.
anyway the point is im going back down later this year and i'd be willing to bring back some souvenirs...for the sake of science and ethno advancement




Yes, please, bring back lots of cuttings and propagate them like HELL! :thumbup:


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Re: Coca plant [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #8001235 - 02/09/08 05:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

To my knowledge growing E. novo (propably E. coca aswell) needs very stable environment without big temperature fluctuations and many years of growing aswell. I actually have a source for E. novo seeds but hesitate paying quite a big buck for them as I'm not sure if the plant can handle the unstable climate of my apartment :laugh:
It is about number one plant I'd LIKE TO grow tho :smile:


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Re: Coca plant [Re: gilrand]
    #8001305 - 02/09/08 05:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Someone ask Royer if i can post the site for this guy i found (i cant be bothered). This guy has by far the cheapest E. novo seeds on the net and thats all he trades in so he is pretty reliable.

I don't think there should be an issue posting this guys site as no shroomery sponsors actually sell E. novo or E. coca.


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Re: Coca plant [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8001642 - 02/09/08 06:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I don't know about the US, but in Canada it's possible to buy boxes of coca leaf tea. It seems like it'd be wierd to be able to buy that but not grow a plant.


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Re: Coca plant [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #8001701 - 02/09/08 06:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yea its illegal. i tried to have a friend send me some but it got siezed.


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Re: Coca plant [Re: AtticusProphet]
    #8004842 - 02/10/08 02:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It is correct that E. novo is legal tho right?


I'm just checking...

I don't want to grow any illegal plants.


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Re: Coca plant [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8005793 - 02/10/08 06:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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scruffymafia said:  it takes 200kg of leave to make 1g of cocaine...I can just imagine people building a 10m dollar greenhouses to grow enough E novo/coca to make 1g of cocaine every 5 years... The greenhouse would need to be about 1 acre in size to make 1g of coke.




Well if that were true, cocaine production would not be a very lucrative venture for anyone no matter where your plantation was.  In fact, coca leaves contain O.1% to 0.9% cocaine.  This would yield between 200 and 1800 grams from your 200kg.  Furthermore, yields may range from 680 to 900 kilograms of dry leaves/acre/year.  That would turn an acre into 900 to 8000 grams of pure cocaine depending on potency and efficiency of extraction method.


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Re: Coca plant [Re: BaldCuban]
    #8006013 - 02/10/08 07:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

peru exports freely...
US customs doesn't generally bother with ummmmm "reasonable" sized packages of inka tea products...if you shoparound you can find boxes of 100 individually wrapped teabags for less than $US 15 (plus shipping) & bargains for larger orders (like 1000 teabags w/o wraps or tags for under $40 (+ shipping)...
i suppose it is a schedule 2 material, but quidding (w pinch of bicarb, or a shaving of llipta (ash/shell mixture)) 1000 teabags will get you a _lot_ farther than trying to do a lab extraction to the purified HCl salt (for like maybe a couple/few grams of toot?)...
go organic, chaw the greenleaf...
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Re: Coca plant [Re: BaldCuban]
    #8006418 - 02/10/08 08:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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scruffymafia said: it takes 200kg of leave to make 1g of cocaine...I can just imagine people building a 10m dollar greenhouses to grow enough E novo/coca to make 1g of cocaine every 5 years... The greenhouse would need to be about 1 acre in size to make 1g of coke.




Well if that were true, cocaine production would not be a very lucrative venture for anyone no matter where your plantation was. In fact, coca leaves contain O.1% to 0.9% cocaine. This would yield between 20 and 180 grams from your 200kg. Furthermore, yields may range from 680 to 900 kilograms of dry leaves/acre/year. That would turn an acre into 90 to 800 grams of pure cocaine depending on potency and efficiency of extraction method.




Ahh yes, my math is flawed. I forgot there were 1000g in a kg.


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