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Thizziswhatis



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Mushrooms are narcotics
#7989577 - 02/06/08 10:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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So I recently got in an argument with someone over the fact that mushrooms, marijuana, and any other psychedelic are NOT narcotics. He is trying to tell me since the government classified stimulants, marijuana, and psychedelics that they are in fact narcotics. So then I pull out the google search and the first thing I get is a wikipedia page explaining how they are NOT narcotics, then he goes to tell me how "wikipedia isn't a correct source and if you knew anything you can't use that in college" blah blah blah. Anyone have any ideas on how to explain this to him. I even explained that because of the Harrison Narcotic act of 1937 they classified these drugs as narcotics in order to make them illegal, not because they are actually narcotics. He also told me to stop spreading me "timothy leary" logic about narcotics only being derived from opium and the fact that narcotics are opiates.
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Plok
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: wireless]
#7989584 - 02/06/08 10:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Punch him in the face.
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KrishnaDreamer
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: Plok]
#7989606 - 02/06/08 10:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Plok said: Punch him in the face.
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im_on_a_boat
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: wireless]
#7989607 - 02/06/08 10:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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who cares about semantics?
it's an illegal drug..
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Thizziswhatis



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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: im_on_a_boat]
#7989613 - 02/06/08 10:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Because it's wrong. Do I call mushrooms a type of stimulant, no because it's wrong. He really doesn't realize how ignorant he is being about it.
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robbyberto
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: wireless]
#7989626 - 02/06/08 10:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The word narcotic can refer to any illegal drug, however, they're not all 'classic' narcotics. Classic narcotics are coca and opium derivatives. It's just how the word has developed in everyday vernacular.
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Edited by robbyberto (02/06/08 10:48 PM)
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im_on_a_boat
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: wireless]
#7989633 - 02/06/08 10:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok well what are you trying to prove by posting a thread on it?
are you going to show it to him and be like 'see'?
if he didn't believe you with the wiki page, why do you think he'd believe us. we're a little biased (towards your side)
why get into semantics and what they're called/classified? pointless..
spend your time debating on more pertinent topics such as.. the upcoming election.
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FarFromHere
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: im_on_a_boat]
#7989649 - 02/06/08 10:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tell him to shut up...
And eat perfectly legal cactus!
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im_on_a_boat
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: FarFromHere]
#7989657 - 02/06/08 10:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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peyote is legal?
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Mad3x
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: im_on_a_boat]
#7989672 - 02/06/08 10:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
drkrobotnik said: peyote is legal?
In some countries... Like weed in Holland
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Mad3x
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: Mad3x]
#7989679 - 02/06/08 10:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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BTW: Nutmegs are legal in all countries?
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Land_Crab
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: im_on_a_boat]
#7989729 - 02/06/08 11:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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There's a risk of getting bogged down in the nomenclature. Today there is no simple, clear, objective, general definition of what exactly constitutes a "narcotic" drug. Some would say narcotics are strictly opiates or opiate derivatives; others would claim than any psychoactive substance capable of inducing "stupor" is a narcotic--and within that group the definition of "stupor" would be open to debate; still others would call attention to different "types" of so-called narcotic drugs; and so on and so forth.
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Crasher
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: Land_Crab]
#7989761 - 02/06/08 11:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Edited by Crasher (02/06/08 11:15 PM)
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FarFromHere
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: Crasher]
#7989801 - 02/06/08 11:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
peyote is legal?
Trichocacti!
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MayorMcCheese
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: FarFromHere]
#7989878 - 02/06/08 11:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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cite wikipedias source as your source.
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FarFromHere
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Why do I have to cite wiki for something that is common knowledge...
What are you talking about?
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rushofblood
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: FarFromHere]
#7990501 - 02/07/08 04:06 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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He means whatever wikipedia cites, cite that, not the wiki itself. They typically have reference links at the bottom of the page
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rushofblood
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: FarFromHere]
#7990503 - 02/07/08 04:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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double
Edited by rushofblood (02/07/08 04:14 AM)
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04281969
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: rushofblood]
#7990854 - 02/07/08 09:09 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just the idiom of idiocy. I doubt it would make a solid defense in court.
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Re: Mushrooms are narcotics [Re: 04281969]
#7990906 - 02/07/08 09:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Who cares what your friend thinks. Let him think what he thinks and you think what you think. This is such a petty argument.
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