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haze1205
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this dosnt make sense
#7986975 - 02/06/08 02:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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So many people say that dmt has to be turned into freebase before it can be smoked. If you look at acacias erowid page there is an extraction link that says that smoking the bark directly gave a mildly halucingenic(spelling)effect. Also if you look up changa on the search engine you can see it is made out of acacia resin that is still in salt form put on caapi leaves. Maybe dmt salt dosnt smoke as good as freebase but im pretty convinced you can still get an effect
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: haze1205]
#7986999 - 02/06/08 02:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Try it and let us know.
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haze1205
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: Crasher]
#7987130 - 02/06/08 02:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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As soon as i get a plant source for dmt I definently will! Sounds easy enough. Make an alcohol extract and evap it onto caapi leaves. If this works it can and will change the way people smoke dmt. Much easier access.
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: haze1205]
#7987331 - 02/06/08 03:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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People will always prefer Pure white crystals when it comes to smoking... its harsh enough when pure.
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haze1205
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: Legoulash]
#7987381 - 02/06/08 03:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I know there a pereferences. Im just confused about how some people say it dosnt work in salt form and others say it does.
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: haze1205]
#7987519 - 02/06/08 04:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've heard of people sprinkling dmt on a bowl of bud and lighting it so I'm pretty sure it works without freebasing.
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: haze1205]
#7987553 - 02/06/08 04:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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a couple years ago i smoked it in an unextracted form directly from leaves which contained DMT (from acacia maybe?), and it did work, but it doesn't work to the extent that crystals do. It felt more like a short mushroom trip rather than a DMT trip. I had to take huge rips, holding it in for awhile each time. You can definitely trip smoking it like that, but it doesn't come near the intensity of smoking the actual crystals. I had the option of buying it like that for 50 bucks, or 100 bucks for the fully extracted stuff. It was well worth the extra 50 bucks to get the fully extracted DMT.
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haze1205
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: Phishe]
#7987559 - 02/06/08 04:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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im not talking about freebasing. im talking about freebase dmt.
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: haze1205]
#7988900 - 02/06/08 08:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was under the impression it's naturally in its freebase form.
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People will always prefer Pure white crystals when it comes to smoking..
Even that werid-o Teotzlcoatl?
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: haze1205]
#7989110 - 02/06/08 08:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Make an alcohol extract and evap it onto caapi leaves. If this works it can and will change the way people smoke dmt.
Don't even try that! The alcohol will pull out all sorts of fats and other junk and make it a nightmare to smoke. Whats so hard about the straight to base, freeze precipitate from naphtha?
It's a much better idea to get pureish DMT, make a salt from that then try smoking it. The HCl salt is apparently not crystalline btw., you might need to make the tartrate or oxalate (kettle descaler i think) salt to get crystals, and i don't know how they would smoke.
Ever try smoking AMT.HCl? It's terrible! I can't imagine it's better than AMT freebase, probably just as bad.
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I've heard of people sprinkling dmt on a bowl of bud and lighting it so I'm pretty sure it works without freebasing
DMT is generally found as the freebase, it doesn't need to be converted to the base to smoke it like coke for example.
Edited by jizmaster (02/06/08 09:00 PM)
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haze1205
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: jizmaster]
#7989213 - 02/06/08 09:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I though it was normally found as a salt, and during extraction you basify it to turn into freebase??
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: haze1205]
#7989446 - 02/06/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah in the plant it's probably 1:1000 freebase:salt. I meant that if you extract directly with alcohol you'll get a load of other nasty stuff too that'll be nasty to smoke. The easiest way to get a pure salt would be a straight to base extract into naphtha and freeze precip. to get pureish DMT, then make a salt from that.
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: jizmaster]
#7989652 - 02/06/08 10:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The thread title and high dose DMT trips go perfectly together.
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: SuperD]
#7989756 - 02/06/08 11:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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you know, i know that mimosa hostilis roots work very well, but digging up a bunch of roots, to scrape the bark off to smoke, doesn't sound very feasable does it? i mean that shit sounds hard. Isn't there some sort of bush that's related to coffee that's great for extracting dmt, and grows fast? peace
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: imachavel]
#7989837 - 02/06/08 11:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Isn't there some sort of bush that's related to coffee that's great for extracting dmt, and grows fast?
Psychotria?
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Re: this dosnt make sense [Re: SuperD]
#7990999 - 02/07/08 10:06 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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SuperD said: The thread title and high dose DMT trips go perfectly together.

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