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perlinpinpin
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13 days after bird seeds inoculation no signs...discard ??
#7986682 - 02/06/08 01:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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hi guys 1st time grower here
i inoculated 2x1 pint of the doc wild bird seed recipe 13 days ago no sign of nothing no contam nothing yet... btw the grain looks great not soggy not too dry
the hic is i did 8 pf-tek at the same time and 5 of them are doin great
should i discards them cuz i dont wanna spoils my pf-teks...
also guys i saw that there are condensation in my pftek jars just in front of where the mycelia is growing its looks like droplet of water... is this ok ?? should i open the foil a little to let some moisture out ? or will this let contams in ?
thanks
Edited by perlinpinpin (02/06/08 01:23 PM)
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Yossarian22
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Re: 13 days after bird seeds inoculation no signs...discard ?? [Re: perlinpinpin]
#7986716 - 02/06/08 01:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you've put in a dry verm layer or a tyvek filter or anything, definitely take off the aluminum foil.
13 days is a bit long, but if there are no contams and you can't smell anything funky, there's no reason to throw them out. At most, you could move them to another room or something from your PF jars, but I wouldn't worry about the jars posing a contam risk until you can actually see contamination. Have you shook the jars yet? Because assuming you're using quart jars, it can take a while for growth to appear on the outside.
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iTrip
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Re: 13 days after bird seeds inoculation no signs...discard ?? [Re: perlinpinpin]
#7986745 - 02/06/08 01:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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wait a bit longer... mine took 15 days to see ANY myc
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shroober
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Re: 13 days after bird seeds inoculation no signs...discard ?? [Re: iTrip]
#7986783 - 02/06/08 01:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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it shouldnt take that long but i wouldnt discard them just yet. if they are properly sealed and filtered it is extremely unlikely that they will contam other healthy jars. but if you are worried about that just move them somewhere else. check back on them in a couple of weeks and you might be pleasantly surprised to find a bunch of healthy, fully colonized WBS jars, worst case scenario is they've done nothing in that time and you simply toss them
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perlinpinpin
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Re: 13 days after bird seeds inoculation no signs...discard ?? [Re: iTrip]
#7986820 - 02/06/08 01:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok thanks guys
i tried to shake the jars when they came out of the pc but its was a little clumpy
shook them hard like 3 days ago
edit i just oppened one of my pf-tek that had not shown yet the dry verm on top was kinda humid and the mix in the glass had compacted half an inch or so
so i removed the verm the top of the brf verm mix was kind tough and compacted ??
maybee thats why theres 3 pftek that arent showing ?? i pressure cooked them togheter with the grains
do you guys think i should lift the foil of my pf-teks a little to let some moisture out ?? they are covered with 2 foil with the inoculation point and one on top btw they are 1/3 to 1/2 done 13 days in temps 82 humidity 55%
thanks guys
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shroober
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Re: 13 days after bird seeds inoculation no signs...discard ?? [Re: perlinpinpin]
#7986846 - 02/06/08 01:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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if your jars are covered with 2 layers of aluminum foil then how are they getting any gas exchange? did you put holes in the foil or something? i prefer coffee filters on my jars, they are breathable but also keep out dust an unwanted air-borne particles
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perlinpinpin
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Re: 13 days after bird seeds inoculation no signs...discard ?? [Re: shroober]
#7986903 - 02/06/08 02:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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no no man im talking about my pf-tek jars i did 2 grains and 8 pf-tek
pressure cooked 3 pf-tek and 2 grains jars that are not showing at all then i did 5 others pf-tek that are doing great the grains jars have polyfill filters with 2 coffe filter on top  the pf teks have 3 layers of foil b+ siryngue 1 ml in each btw
my last question about the foil is that i got condensation where the mycelium is groing in my pf-tek jars
should i open the foil a little (1/3 to 1/2 done 13 days in like i said)
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perlinpinpin
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Re: 13 days after bird seeds inoculation no signs...discard ?? [Re: perlinpinpin]
#7987002 - 02/06/08 02:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i did some research on the forums looks like some water droplets where the cakes shrunk from the wall of the glass is normal
thanks a lot you guys fucking rock
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HeadFood
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Re: 13 days after bird seeds inoculation no signs...discard ?? [Re: perlinpinpin]
#7987027 - 02/06/08 02:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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you do not need those layers of foil if there is dry verm on top. Take them off if you didnt remove all the dried verm
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lovingtickels
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Re: 13 days after bird seeds inoculation no signs...discard ?? [Re: HeadFood]
#7987348 - 02/06/08 03:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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wait two weeks. if nothing is growing enoculate again and re- read all the tek and procedures again in the mean time
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thatamatt
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Re: 13 days after bird seeds inoculation no signs...discard ?? [Re: iTrip]
#7987936 - 02/06/08 05:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I hate waiting. Mine also took 15 days.
Edited by thatamatt (02/06/08 06:02 PM)
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Re: 13 days after bird seeds inoculation no signs...discard ?? [Re: thatamatt]
#7988003 - 02/06/08 06:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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11 days with cracked corn

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