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landsnorkler


Registered: 09/26/06
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Loc: Montana
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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: snoot]
#7987442 - 02/06/08 04:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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hehe.
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Alan Rockefeller
Mycologist


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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: CureCat]
#7987544 - 02/06/08 04:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Alan, I don't mind losing potential users who will not follow the rules. They really tend to deter topics, unable to post anything novel and new. Rules, can be bad, very bad. But I think the rules here are in place for very good reason.
So you know, we might be losing some members who want to post about the weather and think the forum is too strict. But conversely, without these rules, I myself might not be here, along with perhaps a number of other regulars who don't have the time or interest to sift through dozens of off topic threads.
I would rather be in the middle of a whole bunch of people chatting about the weather and mushrooms than be surrounded by a few people acting like cops.
Censoring weather related communications in a mushroom hunting forum is an uphill battle that can never be won. Like the war on drugs, its like trying to part the sea with a scoop shovel. We all know that the same scoop shovel can be used much more effectively transporting wood chips.
Also consider that a lot of good users may start out talking about the weather, and then move on to other subjects as they become more advanced. Censoring peoples posts when they first discover the forum gives them a queasy feeling about things and many will not come back.
Certainly we don't want a reputation of being anal about rules (which we are quickly beginning to acquire, you may notice, if you venture out of the hunting forum), that would be a real shame and would preclude all sorts of good conversation.
I don't like it when my posts get edited, that is one reason I don't post often on mycotopia. Seems that one in two of my posts over there get edited, and at the shroomery it is closer to one in 100.
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adrug

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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: CureCat]
#7987578 - 02/06/08 04:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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So if I find a bunch of mushrooms and want to post some pictures to get some ID's, I can't describe the weather conditions?
*self-edit: That seems ridiculous.
Edited by adrug (02/06/08 04:43 PM)
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2859558484
Growery is Better



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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: CureCat]
#7987602 - 02/06/08 04:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think legit people should definately be able to talk about the weather in legit ways. IDK i think its pretty weird how much you censor it CC. It is annoying when people post a new thread asking about weather, those should be deleted. But when a regular on the board starts talking about weather and you edit theyre post it weirds me out. Im not talking shit either i have a lot of respect for you and your cyans.
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CubensisCutter
mycologist



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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: 2859558484]
#7987657 - 02/06/08 05:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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IT JUST RAINED AND ITS 60 DEGREES DO U GUYZ THINK I WILL FIND SOME SHRUMZ WHAT KIND SHOULD I LOOK FOR I FOUND SOME WHITE MUSHROOMS WHAT ARE THEY CALLED ARE THY MAGIK?
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GGreatOne234
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Registered: 12/23/99
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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#7987691 - 02/06/08 05:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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we might be losing some members who want to post about the weather and think the forum is too strict.
yes well, i welcome everyone to read and participate in this forum within reason. even scout24. you already sent your little letter to the administrators about why you think i should not be a moderator here so that is over with. move on.
alan, it is similar to the drug war, good comparison, that was something i was thinking about when i created this topic. i have been at this forum almost every day for a decade now. the weather rule was probably (very foggy memory) put into place just a few years ago. Gumby wrote it, he claimed that there were too many weather discussions, but i do not really remember it being too much of a problem really. it probably is not too much of a problem now either
i have not put much thought into it yet, but the weather rule will be slightly revised soon. thanks for everyones input, i wanted to hear what other people thought about it first
gg
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GGreatOne234
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Registered: 12/23/99
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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: 2859558484]
#7987702 - 02/06/08 05:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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a good example of that wowitch was the official weilii topic from last year. it was not raining much and people were mentioning it, then cc claimed the topic would be locked if it did not stop and it mushroom clouded from there and it eventually had to be locked, by me, and i am the one who stickied it in the first place.
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scout24
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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: GGreatOne234]
#7987746 - 02/06/08 05:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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GGreatOne234 said: yes well, i welcome everyone to read and participate in this forum within reason. even scout24. you already sent your little letter to the administrators about why you think i should not be a moderator here so that is over with. move on.
I'll move on when you are no longer moderator or start following the rules. My posts are relevant and on-topic, so please resist the urge to censor them or lock the thread.
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sui
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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: scout24]
#7987778 - 02/06/08 05:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i never really noticed a problem, and thought the rule was a little silly, but weather is such an obvious topic. You just look outside or check weather.com
More in depth discussions about weather and mushrooms should be discussed and are but the rule has stopped alot of useless threads, where someone says, its raining are the shrooms growing? All they have to do is look.
It really should have more to do with the substance of the post not just because its about weather.

8K!
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Edited by sui (02/06/08 05:30 PM)
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CubensisCutter
mycologist



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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: sui]
#7987790 - 02/06/08 05:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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suimush said:
It really should have more to do with the substance of the post not just because its about weather.
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implee
Cyber Hippie


Registered: 07/27/06
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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: CubensisCutter]
#7988073 - 02/06/08 06:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well my thread was about my two little crappy cubes then it came to my attention that a small storm system was currently about to pass over... I just want to be social with the texas people It not like its a NEW thread based on houston storm systems, it came a while after the original post =-O
Which stimulated a bit of emo code talk.
Hunters stick with hunters a lot of the time and sometimes its good to socialize instead of just posting statistics or current finds -=\
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2859558484
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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: implee]
#7988127 - 02/06/08 06:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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dude all i talk about with my local hunting buddy is the weather. Hes a redneck
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implee
Cyber Hippie


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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: 2859558484]
#7988140 - 02/06/08 06:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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im sure the occasional fishing talk comes up, or deer hunting season
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snoot
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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: implee]
#7988160 - 02/06/08 06:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I can see a problem lacking some kind of regulations, espcially with noob's posting a bunch of threads asking good weather conditions are good for magic mushrooms to bloom. But I think the significance of weather is significant enough that I think it should just be up to the mods to control it. I think if there is a relevant enough topic to make a thread about, then why not. Aslong as its not something off the wall. Obviously with stricter rules, you still have nooblets running around breaking them and making such stupid posts regardless.
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implee
Cyber Hippie


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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: snoot]
#7988207 - 02/06/08 06:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Take a look at all the improper ID requests and "What mushrooms can i find now" posts lately. Its obvious this isnt going to 'stop' noobs from doing it.
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spores
haploid


Registered: 02/18/99
Posts: 2,486
Loc: Washington
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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: implee]
#7989009 - 02/06/08 08:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think the rule should stay, as is.
I see no problem with passing discussion of weather, or questions about weather in a valid, open thread. the PNW/Cali/Southeast/Georgia threads for example. but threads made for the sole purpose of asking/telling people who read the forum about weather related issues in any certain region or whatever should not be left open. I moderated this forum for a couple seasons and it's getting close to the time of year when we get flooded with noobs posting their local forecasts and asking when to hunt, or asking how long they should wait after it rains to go hunt 4 b00merz, and numerous variations thereof. I think letting that shit slide would be a bad thing for the forum. People from all over the world read these forums and it sucks to have decent threads about mushroom hunting buried by local weather discussions/questions and bullshit like that.
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doitagain
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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: scout24]
#7989645 - 02/06/08 10:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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scout24 said:
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Alan Rockefeller said: It might be annoying to hear about the weather, but that isn't a good enough reason to censor what people say.
Censorship should be saved for when its really needed, otherwise it has a stifling effect on the conversation and the only people who will participate in the forum are those who don't care if they get censored all the time and don't mind following nine different rules.
Good point, Alan. Censorship is a slippery slope. A flat ban on weather discussion will stifle legitimate weather related topics. While I trust a moderator like CureCat to make a determination as to what is legitimate and what is not, I certainly don't trust a moderator like GGreatOne234.
It's a shame that GGreatOne234 is in the practice of locking threads that do not violate any rules because, in his estimation, the topic has been adequately addressed already. This forum is useful primarily because it is a dynamic source of information that reflects an evolving body of knowledge. Not everyone believes that a topic has been exhausted because MJshroomer wrote a 'guide' on it. These antics will spell the end to this forum.
I agree completely, it seems that all too many topics are locked by GGreatone simply for having being discussed before, even if only in a cursory manner. Threads should not be locked for wanting to go into greater depth, you can never know too much about the mushrooms your picking.
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implee
Cyber Hippie


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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: GGreatOne234]
#7989711 - 02/06/08 11:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I improved your rating a bit for being a nicer person to me lately  
ITS SHOWER TIME NOW BYE YOU GUYS
Maybe a sub forum for general discussion should be put in the feeback section
Ill be back later i gotta get started on posting 100 posts in hunting today early. (this will count as my first post of the day)
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CubensisCutter
mycologist



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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: implee]
#7989718 - 02/06/08 11:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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implee said:
Maybe a sub forum for general discussion should be put in the feeback section
what a wonderful idea. you are a smart man.
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implee
Cyber Hippie


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Re: The Official Mushroom Hunting Weather Discussion Rule Topic [Re: CubensisCutter]
#7989743 - 02/06/08 11:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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lol yeah if someone doesnt make a post ill make one when i get back but i have a feeling ythan wont do it unless it was backed by some mods from here
I dont know if ythan would understand it though... I mean come on mushroom hunters like to talk about mycology meets they just went to, or fishing, or books or whatever and just have a general chat without the thread being locked... Its the fucking noobs that ruin it with their noob ass questions on weather and what mushrooms grow in my area and shit.
Edited by implee (02/06/08 11:11 PM)
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