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My speed drying method...
    #7984998 - 02/05/08 10:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Alrighty... I don't have a dehydrator, and drying with normal silica beads takes ages... well I'm impatient and to speed up the process I heat the silica beads every time I yield, to about 120^ F for an hour or two to be sure they are completely dry and warm. Then while they are still warm combine product to be dried + screen + computer fan within an airtight container, and it is practical to brittle dry down large quantities to about 11% of wet weight in about 12 hours.

I would recommend getting a reasonable sized plastic tub, and some "weatherstripping"... you want the tube-rubber kind. Line the edge of the lid with the seal to make the system nearly airtight. For a screen I tear apart a 3.50 air conditioner filter, its a screen mesh with a thin breathable fabric over it.(You'll need a wire cutters to downsize it after you unfold the filter.)


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Recipe:
How a Lokean makes chocolates

For a fully enclosed gh with a coolmist piped in, one may find that adding one of these to the opposite end as the intake will seriously help reduce pressure buildup and strain on the poor weak coolmist motor, while also dramatically improving fae without cutting polyfill stuffed slits all over the damn thing.  (That looks suspicious :smirk:)


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: lastlokean]
    #7985008 - 02/05/08 10:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

A friend just uses a de-hydrator he purchased for ten dollars at a yard sale.

But I'm sure your method works just all the same.


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: HybridprX]
    #7985016 - 02/05/08 10:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

My point is mostly that this container I build to dry with can dry up to 1/2 lb of dry at one time, while I think dehydrators are limited in size... Walmart sells some pretty large plastic containers.


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Recipe:
How a Lokean makes chocolates

For a fully enclosed gh with a coolmist piped in, one may find that adding one of these to the opposite end as the intake will seriously help reduce pressure buildup and strain on the poor weak coolmist motor, while also dramatically improving fae without cutting polyfill stuffed slits all over the damn thing.  (That looks suspicious :smirk:)


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: lastlokean]
    #7985027 - 02/05/08 10:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

do you have the fan blowing air in or out?


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: UCX_911]
    #7985032 - 02/05/08 10:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Air is completely contained within the airtight container... There is no exchange of internal air, just producing internal air currents that will cause dry warm air to be flowing over the mush. i.e. no air comes or goes out of the container... it is airtight :-D


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Recipe:
How a Lokean makes chocolates

For a fully enclosed gh with a coolmist piped in, one may find that adding one of these to the opposite end as the intake will seriously help reduce pressure buildup and strain on the poor weak coolmist motor, while also dramatically improving fae without cutting polyfill stuffed slits all over the damn thing.  (That looks suspicious :smirk:)


Edited by lastlokean (02/05/08 10:45 PM)


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: lastlokean]
    #7985038 - 02/05/08 10:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

want a good 1 .. take your mushies and lay them on a 10 foot long roll of screen .. then roll it up like a jelly roll so they are sectioned by rolled layer and set the resulting cyndrical end at the business end of a strong fan .. works like a charm .. if u want u can set a small space heater a ways behind the fan to dry the air ( not heat it )..


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: lastlokean]
    #7985040 - 02/05/08 10:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Without any air circulation the mushrooms will turn to mush from the water steaming them.


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
    #7985060 - 02/05/08 10:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I used to air dry... I've been concerned as they never seemed to get extremely dry, and I've always been concerned that fan drying exposes large quantities of oxygen and therefore huge amounts of oxidation? Just a speculation, but backed with the observation that they blue much more when fan dried vs. dessicated.


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Recipe:
How a Lokean makes chocolates

For a fully enclosed gh with a coolmist piped in, one may find that adding one of these to the opposite end as the intake will seriously help reduce pressure buildup and strain on the poor weak coolmist motor, while also dramatically improving fae without cutting polyfill stuffed slits all over the damn thing.  (That looks suspicious :smirk:)


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: lastlokean]
    #7985071 - 02/05/08 10:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

They really don't turn to mush... I can upload some photos, they are cracker dry in no time. The warm desiccate prevents the presence of any such steam or water vapor. They are more efficient at absorbing water when they are warm, and furthermore the warm dry air rapidly pulls moisture from the mushrooms and into the silica gel. desiccate absorb water quite well, and even better when warm. If your container was not airtight you would absorb moisture out of the RH of the air, and not out of the mushrooms...


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Recipe:
How a Lokean makes chocolates

For a fully enclosed gh with a coolmist piped in, one may find that adding one of these to the opposite end as the intake will seriously help reduce pressure buildup and strain on the poor weak coolmist motor, while also dramatically improving fae without cutting polyfill stuffed slits all over the damn thing.  (That looks suspicious :smirk:)


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: lastlokean]
    #7985098 - 02/05/08 11:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I was not trying to discredit you lastlokean but I would like to see some evidence of this and if not me, at least a picture of the method before some new guy "potentially" ruins his hard work.


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: HybridprX]
    #7985106 - 02/05/08 11:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

D-Hi-Dre-Tor!


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: HybridprX]
    #7985115 - 02/05/08 11:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Your choice, Im not here for an extra research project to prove anything... Not posting a lot or being existent to this forum for years does not make me any more or less valid.

... I will provide a photo when this next harvest is in, I'd estimate 2 days time, the pins are starting to get pretty tall.

... do a simple experiment with the gel if you want proof, I'm just reporting my personal findings and method which seem to be quite effective to others to investigate/utilize.


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Recipe:
How a Lokean makes chocolates

For a fully enclosed gh with a coolmist piped in, one may find that adding one of these to the opposite end as the intake will seriously help reduce pressure buildup and strain on the poor weak coolmist motor, while also dramatically improving fae without cutting polyfill stuffed slits all over the damn thing.  (That looks suspicious :smirk:)


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: lastlokean]
    #7985123 - 02/05/08 11:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

They couldn't turn into mush from steam, with the possible exception of drying in a sealed container, and even then I'd be skeptical of the possibility.

This is simple thermo, guys.


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: Elfer]
    #7985172 - 02/05/08 11:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The temperature levels inside would oxidize the actives, it may work for gourmet but not if you like your visions, and, have you ever sealed a wet mushroom in a airtight container with damp rid?

boom! mush :wink: unfortunately! I know this stuff guys.


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: lastlokean]
    #7985439 - 02/06/08 01:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Looking forward to the photos! Sounds like a good idea. :smile:


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Re: My speed drying method... [Re: HybridprX]
    #7986526 - 02/06/08 12:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

HybridprX said:
The temperature levels inside would oxidize the actives, it may work for gourmet but not if you like your visions, and, have you ever sealed a wet mushroom in a airtight container with damp rid?

boom! mush :wink: unfortunately! I know this stuff guys.




I completely agree... Putting a mushroom alone in an airtight container = bad idea...

However, putting a mushroom and some good desiccate in an airtight container = dry mushroom with limited amount of oxygen contact. 
    -This is a standard process outlined in many teks, and posts.
The only modification I am suggesting to standard drying with silica gel is to use the silica gel when warm.  This warm silica gel has maximal absorbtion ability and rates.

... The silica gel absorbs the water out of the air, lowering the RH within the drying chamber.  The mushrooms then loose water to the air at high rates.  Put a computer fan within this drying chamber to cause internal circulation increasing evaporation rates.


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Recipe:
How a Lokean makes chocolates

For a fully enclosed gh with a coolmist piped in, one may find that adding one of these to the opposite end as the intake will seriously help reduce pressure buildup and strain on the poor weak coolmist motor, while also dramatically improving fae without cutting polyfill stuffed slits all over the damn thing.  (That looks suspicious :smirk:)


Edited by lastlokean (02/06/08 12:45 PM)


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