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InvisibleKingOftheThing
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No We Can't!!!
    #7984939 - 02/05/08 10:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hillary took california and new york :frown: :frown:
what the fuck were these faggot fucking dems thinking? i am DISGUSTED with my party. you nominate this pandering, flip-flopping cunt?? thanks you fuck heads, you picked the worst possible candidate. just like kerry, picked another fucking loser. obama is a god damned winner...he is the future. hillary is a dried up old bag, a washington insider, owned by special interests. fuck her :frown::(:(:(:(:


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Re: No We Can't!!! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7984959 - 02/05/08 10:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

why is obama so much better? They seem pretty much the same to me :shrug:


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Re: No We Can't!!! [Re: art]
    #7984967 - 02/05/08 10:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well hillary is a woman for one. that and she's a scumbag bitch who's riding bill's coattails and is dumb


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Re: No We Can't!!! [Re: art]
    #7984969 - 02/05/08 10:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hillary took the most Lobbying money by more than DOUBLE of ANY other candidate in ANY party.

Obama took NONE from lobbyists.


still dont see a difference?
Our country was fucked, and it will remain so cause ignorant people vote.


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Re: No We Can't!!! [Re: learningtofly]
    #7984972 - 02/05/08 10:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

lesser of two evils?


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Re: No We Can't!!! [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7985058 - 02/05/08 10:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

who voted for hillary? cuz i'm gonna totally give them a nasty look tomorrow!


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Re: No We Can't!!! [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7985072 - 02/05/08 10:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Fuck! Looks like it's gonna be Clinton vs. Mccain. I don't think there's THAT much difference between Clinton and Obama's policies but for sheer force of personality I like Obama much better. This country has suffered under a weak, inarticulate buffoon for 8 years and it would be fantastic if we could have a confident, charismatic man take the helm. Hillary seems very phony and weak-willed to me.

I know this is all very superficial but I also would've really dug having a black president. This alone could repair our world image several times over when people around the globe see that the American electorate isn't completely idiotic and intolerant, which is what most think of us for electing fucking Dubya twice.

Unfortunately the American voters have their heads up their asses and are very irrational voters... at least the Republicans. Here's some evidence:

"In New Hampshire, 21 percent of voters in the Republican primary told exit pollsters that they “somewhat disapprove” of the war. But 49 percent of those voters cast ballots for McCain—more than twice the total of any other candidate. Another 14 percent of the New Hampshire G.O.P. electorate said they “strongly disapprove” of the war. But McCain was their first choice as well, with 38 percent. (Ron Paul got 26.)"- http://www.observer.com/2008/john-mccain-anti-war-candidate


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Re: No We Can't!!! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7985080 - 02/05/08 10:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

KingOftheThing said:
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hillary took california and new york 
what the fuck were these faggot fucking dems thinking? i am DISGUSTED with my party. you nominate this pandering, flip-flopping cunt?? thanks you fuck heads, you picked the worst possible candidate. just like kerry, picked another fucking loser. obama is a god damned winner...he is the future. hillary is a dried up old bag, a washington insider, owned by special interests. fuck her :frown::(:(:(:





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Re: No We Can't!!! [Re: dill705]
    #7985088 - 02/05/08 11:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Obama would have scorched the general election, Hillary will have her ass handed to her. The Republicans will win this election and we will get the same shit for 4 more years.


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not so fast... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7985102 - 02/05/08 11:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

the primaries are not winner-take-all..as witness NV...so obama could easily salvage enough delegates from CA to leave him very much in it...edwards also took 10% of the vote in CA and those delegates will likely go to obama...so hope is still alive..however barely...

OTOH..what i see is alot of women voting for hillary simply because of what kind of genitals she has..which makes about as much sense as me voting for her because shes' white...yet another reason to discredit feminism should a hillary candidacy hand the POTUS to the repugnicans...


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Re: not so fast... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #7985130 - 02/05/08 11:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yup, I'd imagine the tactic that Republicans use for the general election is cranking up the fear factor and saying that Al Qaeda will destroy us all unless there's a strong-on-national-security type in office (with the implied meaning, not a pussy liberal). Mccain's war credentials will be spoken about ad nauseam and he will make the argument that Hillary doesn't have the *balls* to defend America. Also expect to see some bullshit wedge issues thrown in there to distract people from the Iraq War (i.e. gay marriage).


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Re: not so fast... [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
    #7985223 - 02/05/08 11:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Republicans will make this platform regardless of Obama/Clinton.


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Re: not so fast... [Re: FocusHawaii]
    #7985265 - 02/05/08 11:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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FocusHawaii said:
Republicans will make this platform regardless of Obama/Clinton.




True but I see the weak-on-national-security argument being more effective on Clinton than Obama.

Oh yeah, I also forgot to mention the phrase "tax-and-spend liberal." They'll be sure to wheel that one out even though the Republican party has been very fiscally irresponsible as of late so that'll probably hold less water.


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Re: not so fast... [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
    #7985379 - 02/06/08 12:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Hillary took the most Lobbying money by more than DOUBLE of ANY other candidate in ANY party.

Obama took NONE from lobbyists.




You bring up a good point, but does it really matter which industry they got the money from? lobbyist or...oil.

Although I don't really like her, I can't really see any reason why Obama is any better. She is not getting that much more than Obama.


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Re: not so fast... [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
    #7985394 - 02/06/08 01:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If Obama is the nominee they say his inexperience will lead to vulnerability.

They'll spin it either way and trying to make decisions based on the opposing parties spin is like spinning your tires.


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Re: not so fast... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7985427 - 02/06/08 01:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

KOTT, you're so fucking dumb.

(This is not a flame. I love KOTT. He is just stupid sometimes)

How can you say Hillary has the nomination? Its not even remotely close to settled. Obama will be back in the lead w/in a WEEK. Its a given.

Calm down, the Bitch hasn't won anything yet.


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Re: not so fast... [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7985438 - 02/06/08 01:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

As far as can be seen, its still very much tied-up. I am intrigued by Obama. He seems very appealing as a person, but I have no understanding of his platform, if he has one. :grin: Hopefully his sense of foreign policy and spending isn't nearly as insane as Clinton's or McCain's.

Who is funding him and what does he stand for?


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Re: not so fast... [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7985453 - 02/06/08 01:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

He claims, and of course one can never know, that he has taken absolutely zero dollars from any lobbying group or special interest group. He claims that his entire operation is being funded by donations from individual donors.

I doubt I could describe his stance of every issue in any kind of rational manner at this time of night. You should check is campaign page.


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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: not so fast... [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7985476 - 02/06/08 01:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If he received $33 million in one month from nothing but individual donors, then that is an incredible, very impressive feat. The FEC reports should demonstrate if he's telling the truth or not. The real question, it seems, is if he has/will sell-out. I'll definitely have to check it out...


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Re: No We Can't!!! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7986024 - 02/06/08 09:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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KingOftheThing said:
hillary took california and new york :frown: :frown:
what the fuck were these faggot fucking dems thinking? i am DISGUSTED with my party. you nominate this pandering, flip-flopping cunt?? thanks you fuck heads, you picked the worst possible candidate. just like kerry, picked another fucking loser. obama is a god damned winner...he is the future. hillary is a dried up old bag, a washington insider, owned by special interests. fuck her :frown::(:(:(:(:




But really, what's your real opinion? Don't mince words. We can handle it.


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