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Re: OBAMA CLAIMS DELEGATE LEAD [Re: fireworks_god]
#8007676 - 02/11/08 05:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have much less respect for the man being a prisoner-of-war when he stills propagates the positions and the ideaology that produces prisoners-of-war in the first place.
Yet McCain has repeatedly outraged the Republican base by calling for Guantanamo Bay's closure, squawking about waterboarding being "torture", and insisting that captured enemy combatants have access to the full panoply of America's legal system rather than being treated as the prisoners of war they are.
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Obama is the only person suitably placed to truly lead this country, and, subsequently, the planet, to a new age of prosperity, peace, and sustainability.
Obama is even more of a pinko than John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and Ted Kennedy. America doesn't need four years of rule by a Libbie. And America certainly doesn't need four decades or more of legislation from the bench -- a cast-iron certainty if Obama is elected.
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Re: OBAMA CLAIMS DELEGATE LEAD [Re: Phred]
#8007710 - 02/11/08 05:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes, but war is war, and such an outcome seems inevitable from war. If prisoners of war were treated like first-class citizens by their captors, then man would have seen the folly of war for what it is, and then where would we be?
Tell me, what exactly would be so horrible about Obama as President, supported by a Democratic Congress, something more substanstive than solely relying on the term "Liberal"?
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Re: OBAMA CLAIMS DELEGATE LEAD [Re: Phred]
#8008166 - 02/11/08 10:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Phred said: squawking about waterboarding being "torture" Phred
Waterboarding is torture. Trust the experts, i.e. McCain, and anyone who has administered or experienced waterboarding.
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Re: OBAMA CLAIMS DELEGATE LEAD [Re: gluke bastid]
#8008374 - 02/11/08 11:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Waterboarding is most emphatically NOT torture. The process isn't the least bit painful.
This has been testified to by the dozens of demonstrators and media reporters who have subjected themselves to it -- roughly ten times as many terrorists as the CIA actually waterboarded.
Is it unpleasant? Damned straight! Is it a convincing simulation of drowning? You bet! But torture? Not at all.
Now let's return to the topic of the thread -- Obama's claim to have the lead in delegates. If you feel inclined to continue discussing the utility and/or morality of various interrogation techniques, feel free to do so in this thread -- http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8008357/an/0/page/0
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Re: OBAMA CLAIMS DELEGATE LEAD [Re: lonestar2004]
#8009976 - 02/11/08 06:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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David Plouffe, on a conference call just now, offered the Obama campaign's estimate of where they stand at this moment in terms of delegates.
Ah yes. Those Obama campaign staffers. I get a kick out of Obama campaign staffers. Like the ones in his Houston campaign office, who are too dim to realize that leaving a Cuban flag with their other Leftist idol's image on it (Che Guevara, that is, not the Obamessiah) up in its place of honor on the wall while allowing news photographers into the office doesn't really send the most reassuring message to undecided voters already somewhat suspicious Obama may be too left-leaning for their tastes. See http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5700252&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1
just a few seconds into the video. Yeah... that's a surefire way to snap up delegates all right. Lock up the Che T-shirt demographic.
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Re: OBAMA CLAIMS DELEGATE LEAD [Re: Phred]
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Re: OBAMA CLAIMS DELEGATE LEAD [Re: Phred]
#8010090 - 02/11/08 06:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looks like someone on Obama's staff owns a Che flag, which of course means that Obama is a crazy leftist nutjob
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Re: OBAMA CLAIMS DELEGATE LEAD [Re: Gastronomicus]
#8010399 - 02/11/08 07:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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On Thursday David Wilhelm was a guest speaker in one of my classes. Because of his political ties to the dems (managed Bill Clinton's campaign, chair of DNC) he is a super delegate for this election. He was formally undecided coming into our class, but during his presentation signed his Obama pledge papers and mailed them in. Add one for Obama!
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Ah yes. Those Obama campaign staffers. I get a kick out of Obama campaign staffers. Like the ones in his Houston campaign office, who are too dim to realize that leaving a Cuban flag with their other Leftist idol's image on it (Che Guevara, that is, not the Obamessiah) up in its place of honor on the wall while allowing news photographers into the office doesn't really send the most reassuring message to undecided voters already somewhat suspicious Obama may be too left-leaning for their tastes. See http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5700252&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1
just a few seconds into the video. Yeah... that's a surefire way to snap up delegates all right. Lock up the Che T-shirt demographic.
Oh come on, It's just a poster. He seems to be snapping up delegates quite easily right now, I'm sure a poster isn't going to shatter his growing popularity. I can make the same outlandish and stupid statements about McCain, who I guess may be able to capture the racist vote with him labeling his captors "gooks" in 2002. Gotta lock up that racist vote, although it may be pretty easy if he's against Obama.
On a side note with McCain, I thought he did terrible in the debates! I mean come on, "umm it was a buzzword... buzzword!!" to try and indict Romney for "timetables". Romney killed him in the substantiative part of the Iraq issue, and all he could do was say "It was a buzzword". Overall, I thought McCain absolutely sucks at debating, and it makes me wonder how he is such an active member of congress. I don't have much against him, I think he's a great option compared to any republican candidate for many years, since he's nice and liberal on issues like immigration and torture.
I'm still a little undecided. I can't figure out where I stand on Iraq. We are losing lives, draining billions of dollars, and increasing terrorism on the one hand, but leaving before the Iraqi government is ready could cause a collapse.
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Re: OBAMA CLAIMS DELEGATE LEAD [Re: Phred]
#8013975 - 02/12/08 05:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ahahahahaha
wtf
Oh well, I'm sure it wasn't obama that had the idea to put that up, but still....
Who the fuck would put that up (a); and who the fuck would let reporters shoot while that butcher was hanging on the wall? I'm guessing one person in that office vaugely knew who che was, and put up the flag, and the rest had no fucking idea.
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Re: OBAMA CLAIMS DELEGATE LEAD [Re: Phred]
#8013988 - 02/12/08 05:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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That is hilarious.
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That is hilarious.
Che Lenin Stalin Mao Pol Pot Chavez etc
THE HUMAN MISERY CAUSED BY THEIR POLICIES
hilarious
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Re: OBAMA CLAIMS DELEGATE LEAD [Re: Gastronomicus]
#8014091 - 02/12/08 05:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gastronomicus said: Looks like someone on Obama's staff owns a Che flag, which of course means that Obama is a crazy leftist nutjob
apparently, someone that Obama goes to church with said something about minister Farakhan, who said something about Jewish people, so Obama is a n anti-semite as well.
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Re: OBAMA CLAIMS DELEGATE LEAD [Re: gluke bastid]
#8014121 - 02/12/08 05:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gastronomicus said: Looks like someone on Obama's staff owns a Che flag, which of course means that Obama is a crazy leftist nutjob
Well, that person maybe should have kept it in his/her bedroom for his/her self abuse sessions instead of hanging it in the campaign office. And, oh yeah, Obama is a leftist nutjob.Quote:
apparently, someone that Obama goes to church with said something about minister Farakhan, who said something about Jewish people, so Obama is a n anti-semite as well.
The minister of Obama's church gave Farrakhan some kind of Man of the Year Award type bullshit. Fairly recently. That and the whole black this and black that at that church is quite smelly.
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Re: OBAMA CLAIMS DELEGATE LEAD [Re: zappaisgod]
#8014483 - 02/12/08 07:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah to you
But hell, Romney probably looks like a leftist nut job to you
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