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Offlinehottamali
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Trying to decide if should start over
    #7984134 - 02/05/08 07:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

My friend asked me to check on this. It is his first time and he inoculated rice cakes in 1/2 qt. jars on Saturday 3 days ago. He has some white micilia growing below each hole (under the 1/2 inch dry verticulite)but it looks like cotton. He has searched and looked at photos which are hard to see because of the magnification. What should the mycilia look like in a jar? The temp is at 84 - 83 and RH is around 50%. It is all white but looks fussy.
Thanks in advance. He gave me photos but I don't know how to post them. They are jpeg files.


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: hottamali]
    #7984225 - 02/05/08 08:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like myc to me... I would drop the temp though...


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: the4x4hoss]
    #7984258 - 02/05/08 08:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

1/2 pint you mean?

mycelium you mean?

you should post some of your friend's pictures so we can be able to give him a better idea of what he's got.

it's most likely mycelium. be patient.

leave your jars alone for about two weeks and then check on them.


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7984430 - 02/05/08 08:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I tried to post the photos but they are jpeg and I have not figured out how to do so. However, I was concerned about the cotton looking Mycelium. What should the jar look like? I realize it it appear diffent than a non jar substrate culture. It is all white not gray color. It may be ok but it's a first and maybe too much info has confused him. I know he has spent many many hours reserching threads. He will drop the temp but what He has researched says to inoculate up to 86 deg. If the temp is dropped the problem I think he might face is to get the pins to fruit. Because he lives South where the temp is curently in the 80's. His understanding is that to if all goes well with the inoculation, then to fruit the temp needs to drop up to 10 degrees. Other than putting blue ice in the box or cranking the ac which will jack up the utility bill and the wife not knowing what he is up to will turn the AC up that might not be realistic. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: hottamali]
    #7984454 - 02/05/08 08:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

stick it in the fridge in a jar of cold water when you dunk it prior to birthing.. that is enough to help set it off usually..

you still have a long way to go until then... so just chill, man.


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7984573 - 02/05/08 09:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks, the first 12 jars were to wet so they got dumped. That is why there is more concern on these. They were inoculated in a cardboard glove box and did not want to think that another syringe was wasted by contams. He plans to do a dunk and roll when fully inoculated and will wait an extra week befor doing so.
Thanks for your advice


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: hottamali]
    #7984867 - 02/05/08 10:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I read a thread on how to post jpeg's


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: hottamali]
    #7984880 - 02/05/08 10:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Could you please pass the link or what you know?
Thaks


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: hottamali]
    #7985455 - 02/06/08 01:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

goto www.imageshack.us and host your pic.

then in the thread click the icon that looks like a picture of the moutain, next to X2, paste link and youre done.


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: shevanel]
    #7985594 - 02/06/08 03:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

To upload a jpeg click the Pics link on the top left of the page, just underneath where is says Welcome hottamali.

Once there there is an upload link, click that and you can upload your picture to your gallery. Then you should be able to find the UBB code to paste into your post.


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Edited by shaggydogman (02/06/08 03:41 AM)


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7985696 - 02/06/08 06:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Do not upload and link with the fileshare network, upload them to the shroomery. EAch member has there own gallery they can upload pics to.#


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7985714 - 02/06/08 07:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the info oh posting the photos. The black spots, I belive are from the "new school" type syringe. The jars are 4 days old.


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: hottamali]
    #7985735 - 02/06/08 07:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Great photos. :smile:

The white cottony stuff is fresh mycelium.

The black stuff however is more of a concern...
It looks rather suspicious to me. I'd leave them grow for a few more days and see if the black stuff grows as well.

If it does then I'd be pretty concerned it was contaminated.

I would also be very careful of any black molds that grow. You really don't want to sniff or inhale anything from them, they can be quite bad for you.


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7985827 - 02/06/08 08:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I beleive the black is from the dye in syringe. Will keep on eye on it and check in a couple days. If the black grows, it will be obvious the it's mold and not the dye and they need to be tossed.


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7985829 - 02/06/08 08:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)



if it does turn out to be a black mold make sure you properly dispose of the jars, dont even bother washing them, it can be dangerous if you are not extremely careful


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: shroober]
    #7986978 - 02/06/08 02:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

What are "new school" type syringes then?
Syringes with dye in them?

What's the reason/benefit of puttung dye in a syringe?


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: hottamali]
    #7987016 - 02/06/08 02:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe its just me, but that looks WAY more like mold than cubensis mycelium.


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: simplemachine]
    #7987201 - 02/06/08 03:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yea, id say anything that isnt white myc. isnt worth f-in with. you could try to salvage it and end up ruining all the others.
start over. ive had cakes that ive seen a tiny dark spot on the surface and when i busted it open before throwing out the whole inside was full of contam.
it looks like your vermiculite is very fine, which is not good for mycelium growth. use medium or large vermiculite for more oxygen between peices which speeds colonization.


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: myclops]
    #7987224 - 02/06/08 03:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

wait 4 or five more days and post more pics its a little early to be tossing..


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: myclops]
    #7987294 - 02/06/08 03:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Got them from Earthstongue the syringe liquid is black looks like ink. I could not tell you the purpose other than they are suppose to be more resistant to contams. I don't know. The black doesn't seem to be growing at all so maybe it is from the liquid in the spore syringe. I guess I will know in a few days. My main concern though is the white mycilium or something else? It does not appear to have any rhizomes. Is there a sure way to tell other than opening one up to smell it?


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: myclops]
    #7987295 - 02/06/08 03:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

edit


Edited by hottamali (02/06/08 06:00 PM)


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: hottamali]
    #7987520 - 02/06/08 04:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Just a note: cubensis don't need to be cold-shocked, so don't worry about that. I don't think the syringes included dye; do you mean they claimed to be black because they're full of spores?(Some spore sites advertise how "chock full of spores" or whatever their syringes are, although it doesn't matter unless you plan on thinning out the syringes as per this tek).

It's pretty hard to tell with those photos, but once you know what to look for, identifying mycelium's usually pretty easy. Maybe screw around looking at the pictures in the grow log forum and see if that helps? Otherwise, it should be clear in a couple of days anyway.


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Re: Trying to decide if should start over [Re: hottamali]
    #7989938 - 02/07/08 12:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't open it a smell it just in case it is black mold.

Leave them for 5 days and then post up some more pics.
It really is a bit early to tell.

I still thinks it's myc. It looks pretty much the same as when I view the first myc spots on a cake through my loupe. Mold myc I have seen tends to look more like nylon and is less dense. But then again I have not seen all the mold myc the world has to offer by a long shot!

The first myc from spores is very cottony. In my experience rhizhomes don't tend to start until the area of myc reaches at least an inch in diameter (varies quite a bit).

Time will tell...


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