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OfflineAlan RockefellerM
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Salvia Divinorum: Virginia House Passes Ban (Virginia residents - Call your state senators) [VA]
    #7982996 - 02/05/08 03:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Salvia Divinorum: Virginia House Passes Ban
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/519/virginia_house_votes_ban_salvia_divinorum

A bill to ban the hallucinogenic herb Salvia divinorum was
approved by a vote of 98-0 in the Virginia House of Delegates
Tuesday, paving the way for the Old Dominion to join the handful
of states and localities that have already criminalized the
member of the mint family. The measure now moves to the state
senate.

Salvia divinorum produces powerful but short-lived psychedelic
effects. Once obscure, it has become increasingly well-known
thanks to Internet-spread word of mouth. While the DEA considers
it a "drug of interest," the agency has yet to move to designate
it a controlled substance, and it remains freely available over
the Internet or at various retail outlets in locales that have
not banned it.

Sponsored by Delegate John O'Bannon (R-Henrico), HB21
(http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?081+sum+HB21) would
move salvia from unrestricted status to a Schedule I controlled
substance under Virginia law. O'Bannion said he introduced the
bill after receiving suggestions he do so from law enforcement.

"It's really not a pleasant thing to take. It can cause bad
trips, dysphoria and sweats," O'Bannon said.

Which is why, despite all the hullabaloo, salvia has not emerged
as a popular drug. Most users are quite happy to limit
themselves to using it once or twice.

O'Bannion demonstrated an idiosyncratic view of individual
liberties as he discussed his bill. "I'm respectful of
individual liberties and public good. I think what's happening
is this is becoming a drug that can be misused," O'Bannon said.
"Putting it on the Schedule I will not harm anybody," he said,
but would make "a reasonable balance between public safety and
civil individual liberties."

Of course, putting salvia on Schedule I, where its users would
be subject to the same prison terms as the users of other
proscribed drugs, would harm those people unfortunate enough to
be arrested with it. But O'Bannion and his fellow delegates
apparently didn't consider the impact that being caged in jails
or prisons for long periods of time has on individual liberty.

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Here is a list of Virginia state senators:

http://sov.state.va.us/SenatorDB.nsf/$$Viewtemplate%2Bfor%2BWMembershipHome?OpenForm

And a link about contacting Virginia state representatives:

http://legis.state.va.us/1_cit_guide/contacting_my.html

Here is a link to the proposed state law:

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?081+fuh+HB21E+407482

How to track a bill through the Virginia state legislature:

http://legis.state.va.us/1_cit_guide/how_track.html


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Re: Salvia Divinorum: Virginia House Passes Ban (Virginia residents - Call your state senators) [VA] *DELETED* [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7983030 - 02/05/08 03:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Salvia Divinorum: Virginia House Passes Ban (Virginia residents - Call your state senators) [VA] [Re: Chemy]
    #7983064 - 02/05/08 03:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

"Putting it on the Schedule I will not harm anybody," he said,
but would make "a reasonable balance between public safety and
civil individual liberties."

Yes, not allowing an adult to SMOKE A FUCKING PLANT... very reasonable.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum: Virginia House Passes Ban (Virginia residents - Call your state senators) [VA] [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7983148 - 02/05/08 03:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I Agree with Chemy. anybody in power should pass a IQ test and a personality test. It takes 10 years to be a doctor but any dumbass can be a president? an IQ test should be appointed.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum: Virginia House Passes Ban (Virginia residents - Call your state senators) [VA] [Re: Groomies]
    #7983259 - 02/05/08 04:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

When it comes to a public vote, nobody can vote against scheduling a drug. These sorts of votes are usually unanimous or close to it, since no politician wants to look soft on drugs.

These laws can be beat, but only in committee. I'm not familiar with VA specifically, but in general after a law is passed by the house, it then goes to a Senate committee. The committee hears public comment about the bill, then decides whether to allow the full Senate to vote. If it passes committee, it's a sure-thing to pass the full Senate vote.

Phone calls are better than nothing, but not by much. To make a difference, call each of the Senators on the committee and voice your opposition to the bill. Stress that salvia poses no danger whatsoever, and that it can be a critical tool in the state's fight against addictive hard drugs.

But to really defeat this bill, show up at the committee meeting and speak your mind there. For the most part, they aren't going to care about liberties and fairness. They need to know that salvia is harmless and poses no threat to public health or safety to alleviate their fears. Then they need to understand that salvia helps break addictions to meth, opiates, and even alcohol, and that your state can't afford to be taking something off the market that can reduce addiction to hard drugs. Some users actually break their addiction with just a single use of salvia (yes, this is true).

Make sure the committee members understand that if they are serious about fighting drug addiction, what they really need to do is figure out how to educate addicts that salvia can help them.

Don't assume someone else will show up to defend salvia. They won't, these laws are almost always unopposed.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum: Virginia House Passes Ban (Virginia residents - Call your state senators) [VA] [Re: pokermush]
    #7983604 - 02/05/08 05:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm going to skip classes and go to the Senate meeting if I can. Can people help me find out where the Senate meets in VA, and when this bill is scheduled to be voted on?
Also, if people have well researched evidence as to the harmlessness or salvia, or to its psychologically beneficial aspects, please let me know so I can compile a bunch of data.
Any help would be much appreciated, feel free to PM.


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Re: Salvia Divinorum: Virginia House Passes Ban (Virginia residents - Call your state senators) [VA] *DELETED* [Re: DragonChaser]
    #7983684 - 02/05/08 06:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Salvia Divinorum: Virginia House Passes Ban (Virginia residents - Call your state senators) [VA] [Re: mizderbeatz]
    #7983802 - 02/05/08 06:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Guys, thanks for being willing to stand up for what's right!

Here is the VA Senate committee that will be considering this bill:
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?081+com+S4

Here you can track the progress of the bill:
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?081+sum+HB21

Notice that the bill was referred to the House committee on 11/29/07, but didn't pass the committee until 1/10/08. However, these bills sometimes accelerate as they progress, especially if VA has a strict legislative schedule. HB 21 was referred to the Senate committee on 1/16/08, so it really could be any time. You can view their docket, including agendas by clicking on "committee dockets" on the committee page. The direct link is
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?081+doc+DOCS04

Unfortunately, VA seems to be a bit behind on the functionality of their web site, so it doesn't have an automatic email subscription list for committee schedules and agendas. I would suggest contacting the chair of the committee, Senator Edward Houck
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?081+mbr+S16
Let him know that you want to attend the committee meeting where HB 21 will be considered; they may be able to add you to an internal email list so that you'll know when this bill comes up.

Tomorrow is Utah's committee meeting and I'm compiling some information to help SWIM in that meeting. I'll post and/or PM that information, plus anything else I think might be helpful, tomorrow.


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