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gluke bastid
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jonathanseagull said: This is a question that comes up again and again and I've yet to see a satisfactory answer (although I haven't looked very hard myself).
I'm telling you. Read the Katha Upanishad. It's not that long. Katha
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dblaney
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Re: Buddhism Questions? [Re: Chronic7]
#7991592 - 02/07/08 12:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I totally beleive that inbetween lives the cosmic consciousness/interconnectedness that is the effect of the cause of your lifes energy awaits manifestation through birth after death in order to maintain a balance, very simple really.
I totally believe that there is no such thing as in-between lives. After you die, that's all...that's it. Nothing. No awaiting manifestation or bardos or Nirvana, or anything at all.
Who is right? Who is wrong?
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Chronic7

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Re: Buddhism Questions? [Re: dblaney]
#7991693 - 02/07/08 01:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am right 
Only joking, theoretically neither of us can be right or wrong as there is no right or wrong.
I only beleive what i have experienced, i dont practice blind faith apart from "attainment (realisation&actualisation of Nirvana", disregarding this, i still beleive everything was one, and still is through interconnectedness, so when your cosmic consciousness/interconnectedness leaves your body, it goes back to pure essence, and gets born and dies, becomes, many times.
However this cosmic consciousness/interconnectedness that leaves the body is not separate from anything, it is not an individual entity.
The only reason i beleive this is through realisation of it and actualisation through experience, i don't need anyone to believe the same thing as me as its truth, just as you beleive your own truth, neither of us is wrong or right.
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dblaney
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Re: Buddhism Questions? [Re: Chronic7]
#7992705 - 02/07/08 05:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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My only question is...why solidify your self with beliefs of any sort?
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bodhiman777
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Re: Buddhism Questions? [Re: dblaney]
#7993093 - 02/07/08 06:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'm proposing that what you may have experienced in your N.D.E. was a dream constructed of the information that you have consumed over the years. any resemblance to a Buddhist experience may be attributed to your studies of the Buddhist faith and the culture/religion you were raised in.
when you had your NDE were you slowly slipping away ( say in an operation / anesthesia) or was it an unexpected event, all of a sudden, life flashes before your eyes thing?
i'd like to hear current NDE's of Muslims to see if Muhammad exclusively greets them. Same with Christians (i know the tunnel of light is a popular one), Hindus, even tribal cultures, just to see if they carry any similarities.
i'm pretty sure nothing of the personality that you cherish carries on in any form after dis corporation, whether through some mental constructs like "genetic memory" or any other believed propositions unless your effect was felt far enough in civilization for future generations to preserve, but even that is impermanent.
our thoughts maybe pretty special to us, but they're not as hot as you think. try thinking like a heartbeat for 76 years. thump, thump, thump, thump, thump... im tired of it already. its even a struggle for me to make this pointless argument.
if you feel you touched nirvana though, congratulations. you were one of the few to experience "no thought", when your mind gives up and lets go and your body re syncs its senses to the vibration of being. you get to take that with you when you have your final dream.
the core of Buddhism is that you do not need believe in anything, there is no cause, there is no reason, and there is a cause, there is a reason at the same time, but what does that have to do with BEING?
you wouldn't have an extra Marb, would you?
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