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Bridgeburner
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"spiritual" trips?
#7981883 - 02/05/08 09:34 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i've heard some people taking 5g for their first mushroom trip and then complaining that the trip wasn't "spiritual" enough or they didn't receive any revelations.
i said i think they were kind of arrogant expecting instant revelations and such, adding that the more a person knows of philosophy and such topics the more likely it is that he/she contemplates on it during the trip and the more likely it will for he to gain some inner understanding.
was i being arrogant saying this? because asked if i thought i was smarter than them, i said no, it's just the mushrooms don't give you knowledge, you have to have it all in your head beforehand and shrooms just help you gain insight. like a therapist, he doesn't cure you of your mental problems, he just helps you a little so you can solve your problems on your own eventually.
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Fraggin
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Trips with spiritual undertones are not embarked upon by participating in normal situations while under the power of them.
Just like spirituality, gaining spiritual insight with shrooms comes from the appropriate setting and mindset.
I think it comes down to maturity and knowing the mushrooms well enough to use them.
For example, I can take 1 gram and sit in quiet darkness with my eyes closed and have extreme closed eye visuals, audible hallucuinations and profound epiphanies, and in the same setting, open my eyes and get up to walk around and be close to baseline.....
Utilizing a heroic dose to 'get out there' is not necessary unless a person requires the shrooms to take total control of their body and mind.
For the experienced user, this is not necessary since they have the ability to put the ego to rest and get the most usefulness out of lower doses of shrooms.
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redgreenvines
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Re: "spiritual" trips? [Re: Fraggin]
#7981926 - 02/05/08 09:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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complainers are too busy to see what is already happenning. one has to let go
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blacksun



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Like you said its a situation where by if you don't have the right mindset/thoughts/ideas in the first place, it wont really have much to work on.
Im sure something was going on, but they had no idea what it was. Set and setting.
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Fraggin
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Re: "spiritual" trips? [Re: blacksun]
#7981977 - 02/05/08 10:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Also, shrooms don't always cure problems. Sometimes they move the dirt away from problems buried years ago and present it to your concious mind for a resolution. Though this is not always pleasant, it is none the less healthy since repression is so damaging.
The subject of this discussion, in it's entirety, is going to be relative to the maturity of ther person in question.
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deranger


Registered: 01/21/08
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Quote:
b0red5tiff said: i've heard some people taking 5g for their first mushroom trip and then complaining that the trip wasn't "spiritual" enough or they didn't receive any revelations.
hampster running to hard on the wheel?
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SapphireCat
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Re: "spiritual" trips? [Re: deranger]
#7982117 - 02/05/08 10:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i find that high doses aren't the best for spiritual trips really. i find 2/3g more appropriate. 5g you're just too focused on the abstractness of it all to focus on thought, just get dragged along. at least for most of it. might be a part where i snap into a revelation
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deranger


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Re: "spiritual" trips? [Re: SapphireCat]
#7982132 - 02/05/08 10:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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my highest dose trip, 3/4 an ounce aten in separate doses over the night was the most spiritual for me. out of body wise...
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