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Is procrastination a problem?
    #7981868 - 02/05/08 09:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe it's just a way of overriding programs that tell us that unimportant things are important.


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7981879 - 02/05/08 09:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I don't know. Sometimes I have this flash of insight where I can see the false energy pattern that I identify with as "me" draining me of the energy to do things I know would be beneficial to me in the long run to do. When I see this happening it's like uggghhhhhh. I think we have control over what to do at all times and that most of the time we are being actively drained by a false self that is unhappy for no good reason.


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7981891 - 02/05/08 09:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Depends on the circumstance. If you're overweight and it is affecting your well-being, procrastinating in regard to exercise and a diet change would be a problem. If I have a large book that I have been wanting to read but just haven't taken the time to sit down and open it up, maybe your idea would be right. If the interest just isn't large enough to motivate, than how beneficial would it be if I were to 'force myself' to do it.


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: WScott]
    #7981905 - 02/05/08 09:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It depends on what I'm procrastinating. Inherently, no, procrastination is not a problem.


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: Lion]
    #7981936 - 02/05/08 09:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Lion said:
I don't know.  Sometimes I have this flash of insight where I can see the false energy pattern that I identify with as "me" draining me of the energy to do things I know would be beneficial to me in the long run to do.  When I see this happening it's like uggghhhhhh.




"ugghhhhh" as in orgasmic? :sun:


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7981944 - 02/05/08 09:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

there will always be some procrastination in my case (at times may be a problem), but how much of this procrastination turns into action is what arouses my attention.


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: Lion]
    #7982014 - 02/05/08 10:16 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Lion said:
I don't know. Sometimes I have this flash of insight where I can see the false energy pattern that I identify with as "me" draining me of the energy to do things I know would be beneficial to me in the long run to do.




"If you want to describe its essence, the best you can say is 'Not-two.' In this 'Not-two' nothing is separate, and nothing in the world is excluded."

For some reason that quote came to mind when I read your post. Anyways, yeah procrastination sucks. I think in my case it's often just a result of clinging: wanting to enjoy the pleasure of not doing whatever it is for just a little while longer. It's not such a bad thing.


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7982335 - 02/05/08 11:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Maybe it's just a way of overriding programs that tell us that unimportant things are important.




I don't know if this applies to all cases, but I think you're just about right.
It seems to be rooted in there.
If I take a closer look at the things I mostly delay, it IS because I don't consider them to resonate to who I am.
But what I have also noticed is that there are other times in which I procrastinate out of inertia. It's like this transfer of attitudes produces, making me sometimes mindlessly indulge laziness in some aspects that I find important.


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7982414 - 02/05/08 12:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

We're funny animals all right.


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7983461 - 02/05/08 05:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Maybe it's just a way of overriding programs that tell us that unimportant things are important.




Do you mean "is a pro car station a problem?"  - if yes, then I don't see it as an actual problem....
Otherwise, from a fellow procrastinator, I will get back to you on this....

:tongue:

Without contexts, it is too difficult to answer....
However, I have never had any serious consequences due to my procrastination (yet)....


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7983519 - 02/05/08 05:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Why bother worrying about this right now?


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7984274 - 02/05/08 08:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm a brutal procrastinator, but then I do my best work under pressure so maybe it's not so bad. I always start it with enough time to complete it well. I begin papers at least 3 days before they're due.:smirk: But hell, I get mostly A's so it seems to work fine, aside from the stressful frenzy aspect of it.


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7984303 - 02/05/08 08:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Oh yeah, and mindless pleasure is important too. Going out with friends, playing guitar, tidying the house, arguing with people on the internet- all of these things are a part of a full life. Procrastinating is only a problem when one is bad at managing themselves at recognizing when they really can't afford to procrastinate any longer.


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7985931 - 02/06/08 09:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
Why bother worrying about this right now?




What me worry?


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7985935 - 02/06/08 09:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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NiamhNyx said:
I'm a brutal procrastinator, but then I do my best work under pressure so maybe it's not so bad. I always start it with enough time to complete it well. I begin papers at least 3 days before they're due.:smirk: But hell, I get mostly A's so it seems to work fine, aside from the stressful frenzy aspect of it.




Nice to hear about your life but that does not address my question.:lol:


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7988401 - 02/06/08 07:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Procrastination isn't a problem for me, but I don't think that's what you are really asking.  But that's what I'm gonna answer.  :grin:  Because Phantomcat took my answer!  I was gonna say "I"ll tell you later."

I'm the type who does best with a deadline and always gets it done just barely in time.  Drives other people crazy.  I feel more energized knowing it's got to get done NOW.  But it's possible that things won't always get done to the best of someone's ability if they are rushed.


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7988443 - 02/06/08 07:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I think that my life experience is entirely relevant. :tongue: You asked if procrastination is a problem, and from my own experience, I answered yes and no.


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7989049 - 02/06/08 08:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I forgot about the title of the thread but how about this? Maybe it's just a way of overriding programs that tell us that unimportant things are important.


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7989075 - 02/06/08 08:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's a problem when you mispell it. Procarstination indeed.

Now as to the fine art of postponing the inevitable it's worth a try what have you got to lose but time? Indeed.


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #7989085 - 02/06/08 08:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

oops:blush:


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7989164 - 02/06/08 09:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Because wasting time is more important than chasing what you know you really want.

Procrastination is receding back into the comfortable. The regular. A patterned, content, lazy existence.

Come on, man. And I think you ARE wasting away behind that computer, or whatever Niah's post was recently. In your heart and mind you know what is important to you. What will make you grow. The path you belong on. What drives you. Reaching your potential.

I think you know better than this.


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #7989187 - 02/06/08 09:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i have really been putting off reading this thread


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7989206 - 02/06/08 09:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I put off responding to Ice for a while but I have spent part of my day procrastinating and I'm taking it out on Icelander because he knows as well as I do, or I think he should!


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #7989237 - 02/06/08 09:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Because wasting time is more important than chasing what you know you really want.

Procrastination is receding back into the comfortable. The regular. A patterned, content, lazy existence.

Come on, man. And I think you ARE wasting away behind that computer, or whatever Niah's post was recently. In your heart and mind you know what is important to you. What will make you grow. The path you belong on. What drives you. Reaching your potential.

I think you know better than this.




Gee darlin, you seem to believe you POV is some kind of truth. I think comfort is a good thing. I also (after a long life of physical activity that might put yours to shame) think that talking to people and debating philosophy is a lot of fun and very worthwhile compared to most ambition I see these days.

You seem to think your actions have a higher meaning in the scheme of things. I no longer believe this except on a personal level. What works just fine for you seems irrelevant to me and vice versa. Don't be too sure you know what's going on here. You think what I really want is something you might know because it's most likely what you really think you want or what one should want to make the world over in your image. But you are wrong dear one.


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7989262 - 02/06/08 09:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well I am sure you will read my second comment in response to redgreen's and see that I agree.  I only attack your procrastination because I know I shouldn't be procrastinating.

But then why would I even bother responding when I am so transparent with myself.  :shrug:

And why would you bother making this thread if you already had your answer? :shrug:

In any case I am procrastinating going to bed.  Good night, hopefully.


Edited by Amber_Glow (02/06/08 09:31 PM)


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Re: Is procarstination a problem? [Re: mushbaby]
    #7989331 - 02/06/08 09:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

mushbaby said:
:grin:  Because Phantomcat took my answer!  I was gonna say "I"ll tell you later."




DaMMiT....!
I knew if I waited a lil bit longer, someone else would have said it....  :waits:    :crankey:


I can tell you that being a procrastinator, I have made a new best friend....!  :thumbup:
It is a little button on my clock that has the word "snooze" on it....    :grin:

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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #7989332 - 02/06/08 09:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I think you had a good point, minus the criticism of Icelander.

Procrastination is often putting off doing things you actually care about, but that are difficult or require more effort than whatever short term entertainment you are engaging in instead. I honestly do care a lot more about learning the material presented in my courses (for it's own sake and not just for the grades or credit) than I care about watching Anchor Man or adding new 'apps' to my facebook. The things that have been the most satisfying and fulfilling are often the things I've avoided the most, because they are difficult or somehow frustrating to work through.

But I do agree that it's also really important to take time to just goof around and chill out. It's definitly not healthy to work too hard all the time.


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7989344 - 02/06/08 09:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

speaking of procrastination and facebook, this is hilarious.


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7989352 - 02/06/08 09:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry to Ice and others if it came off as some sort of biting criticism, I meant it with a good heart (and didn't necessarily mean it at all).


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7989366 - 02/06/08 09:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I used to be a member of the Facebook group "Nothing gets my room cleaner than a paper due tomorrow".

I must admit, I spent today cleaning the whole house instead of working on research and reading. :[


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #7989439 - 02/06/08 09:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Cleaning the house is definitly an important thing to do!


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7989932 - 02/07/08 12:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Is procrastination a problem?




Yes, if you need to do something by a certain time schedule.


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #7990859 - 02/07/08 09:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Sorry to Ice and others if it came off as some sort of biting criticism, I meant it with a good heart (and didn't necessarily mean it at all).




I'm not offended dear friend. My point is that we procrastinate usually because something isn't quite right about what we tell ourselves we want or should want. When one is ready for change it happens without that kind of effort. It is work to change but of a different kind then the constant chatter of telling ourselves we should do this or that. When we really want something nothing ever stands in the way and there is never a question about hanging back.


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7991160 - 02/07/08 10:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I agree and disagree with that.


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7991677 - 02/07/08 01:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:crazy2: You go girl.


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: Icelander]
    #7991782 - 02/07/08 01:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If you are totally here now, can you procrastinate? I beleive NO.

So yes procrastination is bad.


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7991808 - 02/07/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Bad as in evil bad?  :hellfire:

Oh and yes, of course you can procrastinate in the here now.


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7992102 - 02/07/08 03:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No i dont believe in evil. :smile:

But i belive if you are truley in the now you cannot procrastinate.

Think about it, if you are purely aware of each second, TRULEY BEING HERE NOW, you are part of everything, unattached to outcome, so how can there be anything else to need to do to then procrastinate?

You would have no concern for outcomes and needs and wants to do ANYTHING. So theres nothing to procrastinate.

You can be living/dying and procrastinate, but a being truely in the here NOW cannot procrastinate.

Procrastination is lazyness through fear, if you feel the need to do something you put it off, through fear, you want to stay comforted.

Fear of change, its very simple when you take a step back.

BUT...

If you have right intention to do something and do not do it then it is unfullfilling procrastinating, yet if you have wrong intention and procrastinate then you arent fullfilling this wrong intention and may have the time before fullfilling it to realise it is not right intention, so your right in the sense that not ALL procrastination is bad, yet is done out of fear of change for both cases :smile:


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7992176 - 02/07/08 03:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yes. :smile:
I see where you're coming from.

I think that there are more preferable choices than procrastination, such as simply deciding NOT to do whatever it is that you're delaying. Or to do it. Anyways, making a decision instead of pending.
But pending has its good aspects as well, because it can lead one to more detailed conclusions. :smile:


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Re: Is procrastination a problem? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7992312 - 02/07/08 03:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I agree, theres 2 or more sides to everything, so that process of procrastination could lead to great truth.

You could act out of worng intention, like if sumone cheats on you and you wana go get your own back, but then procrastinate, thus realising you have to accept what has happened instead of getting revenge, then its a good thing for sure as you didnt react to that wrong intention.

Mushroom trip your a great strong woman one who doesnt just agree for the sake of peace!

There should be many more of you out there, don't get me wrong most men are just as bad as most women!


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