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Offlinecillyman
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PH question
    #7980879 - 02/04/08 11:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hey guys, i searched and found conflicting opinions on whether or not ph regulator is necessary.

If its not necessary thats okay...It wouldn't hurt right? I figure i'll do it if theres any chance it will help

Im spawning wbs to coir/coffee/gypsum cased in 5050. also i was going to add powdered crushed oyster chell to the casing

would ph balance help?


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Re: PH question [Re: cillyman]
    #7980984 - 02/04/08 11:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Lime the casing, not the substrate. Use gypsum in both.
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Re: PH question [Re: RogerRabbit] * 1
    #7981012 - 02/05/08 12:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Casing material pH & why it is important.
"pH", is a measure to describe the acidity of a medium. pH 7 is neutral; higher means alkaline, lower acidic.
Peat is a major constituent of preferred casing mixes. The pH of peat is variable, dependent on the source it came from. Meaning, the pH of peat differs from various sources.
The optimal pH range of a casing mixture is 6.5 to 8. Peat is acidic. Consequently, to achieve an optimal pH range of a casing mix, the pH of the casing mixture must be adjusted accordingly (within the range of 6.5 to 8).
It is generally easier to make casing materials more alkaline (i.e. increasing the pH) than it is to make them more acid (i.e. reducing the pH).
A movement of 0.5 is easy but, because the pH scale is logarithmic, a movement on the order of, 2.0 points becomes more difficult because there is a factor of 10x between each full point, so pH 5.0 is actually 100 times more acid than pH 7.0.
There are several common types of lime available for use, though care should be exercised with all of the products. Lime is caustic and a skin and eye irritant and can be dangerous if misused. If you choose to use such products, carefully read and follow all manufacturer directions exactly. The major types of lime products include:
Hydrated Lime: fast acting, but not long lasting. It is very effective to produce a fast change in pH level. It is also the "strongest" form of lime generally available, and you must follow all manufacturer precautions, since your skin and eyes can be easily irritated or burned if the product is misused.
Ground Limestone: a naturally occurring type of limestone that has been ground to a fine powder. How quickly it will act to modify pH and how long it will persist depends on how finely it was ground.
Generally, ground limestone is weaker than hydrated lime, needing about 30% more to raise the pH by the same amount. It has the advantage, however, of usually being significantly cheaper than the hydrated lime, and usually woks more slowly and lasts much longer.
Mixed Lime: usually sold under a brand name. Most brands contain a variety of particle sizes to provide some immediate benefits, as well as a longer persistence. (this is often referred to as "time released" lime.)
If you wish to achieve optimal results, when adjusting pH? It is highly advisable to use litmus strips (with color chart), or acquire a pH test probe (available at most garden supply stores, under $20) to accurately test, and adjust the pH of your casing mix, prior to application.

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Also using Lime will decrease your chances of contamination greatly...
Ratio;
Gypsum: 10%
Lime: Teaspoon to Tablespoon per cup of dry peat...Some people use teaspoons if they cant accurately measure so I myself would go with a teaspoon


Edited by dumbfounded1600 (02/05/08 12:10 AM)


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Re: PH question [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7981202 - 02/05/08 12:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i prefer calcium carbonate in the form of shell flour or reptile sand.
available at the petstore with wbs and coir.

i found reptile sand to be reeeeally good lately. gives a good crunchiness to the casing and helped provide a beautiful pinset.


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Re: PH question [Re: galadar]
    #7981249 - 02/05/08 01:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

thanks so much guys very helpful


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