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SOMA the original Entheogen
#7979772 - 02/04/08 08:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Does anyone know if anywhere in the Rig-Veda it mentions SOMA as being more powerful or more important that Brahma? Or anything that proclaims Soma as the highest power?
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Re: SOMA the original Entheogen [Re: SSM_Arts]
#7979857 - 02/04/08 08:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No, but I can add that in the creation of the Vedic caste system, Purusha (the cosmic Adam archetype) was sacrificed, and somewhere in there, Agni (the fire-god, symbolic for the fire of sacrifice) uses Soma to help him communicate with the other gods. So sacrifice and entheogens ("god within") were the mediators between man and absolute.
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Brahman is always the ultimate. Soma was simply used in their fire ceremonies to commune with the Gods and Brahman itself. For this reason the Rigveda spends a good deal of time talking about. But it was always a means and not an end. The plant was later deified as a God itself. However, fundamentally all Gods are manifestations of the one Brahman which is beyond all categories. It's also important to realize that soma was simply an aid for Tapas or meditative disciplines.
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Re: SOMA the original Entheogen [Re: Orbus]
#7981187 - 02/05/08 12:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was wondering because I heard Mckenna say that in th 95th mandala of the Vedas it states that Soma is greater than Brahma.
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Re: SOMA the original Entheogen [Re: SSM_Arts]
#7981710 - 02/05/08 08:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i read somewhere the highest activation of soma is done through the dark room. it is the highest vision you can experience, and gives the most expanded understanding of reality. and when it is over, you don't go back to baseline, your awareness and state of consciousness is permanently altered.
Whether these archaic Alchemical secrets were presented to the ancient Egyptian kings, or as the Soma of the ancient Veda's, whether it be the plant alchemy of the ancient Taoists, or the cave dark room alchemy of the Chinese sages and Tibetan Buddhists of the Vajrayana and Bon Po traditions; whether it be the Gnostic Christ teachings, or the Heavenly bread of the line of Kayin, the craftsman; whether it be the Shamans of the Amazon Basin, or the Shem.Ma.Na's of ancient Sumeria; whether it be the Zoroastrians and their Haoma, or Mohammed and the Espand; whether it be the Manichaeans, the Cathars, or the Templers with the Agape Arcanum; or the Northern gods Orthrorir Meade of immortality and wisdom, that Odin bequeathed.
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Re: SOMA the original Entheogen [Re: deranger]
#7981854 - 02/05/08 09:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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SyntheticMInd said: Whether these archaic Alchemical secrets were presented to the ancient Egyptian kings, or as the Soma of the ancient Veda's, whether it be the plant alchemy of the ancient Taoists, or the cave dark room alchemy of the Chinese sages and Tibetan Buddhists of the Vajrayana and Bon Po traditions; whether it be the Gnostic Christ teachings, or the Heavenly bread of the line of Kayin, the craftsman; whether it be the Shamans of the Amazon Basin, or the Shem.Ma.Na's of ancient Sumeria; whether it be the Zoroastrians and their Haoma, or Mohammed and the Espand; whether it be the Manichaeans, the Cathars, or the Templers with the Agape Arcanum; or the Northern gods Orthrorir Meade of immortality and wisdom, that Odin bequeathed.
What's the source for this quote
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Re: SOMA the original Entheogen [Re: Orbus]
#7981864 - 02/05/08 09:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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