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Anonymous #1
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Transgender
#7979496 - 02/04/08 07:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Didn't know where to post this. I am seeing more and more of this shit. WTF? That is some weird shit.
Heterosexuality, homosexuality and bi-sexuality, I'm cool with. Guys dressing like chicks and vice-versa OK. But cutting your dick off or putting one on? 
I'm thinking it's more self-loathing than sexual whatever?
Guys please don't turn into an OTD fest, even though I know it's begging for it!
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Anonymous #2
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Yea honestly. I don't buy into this, oh we can change genders bullshit. No you are just a dude with a fucked up hole that used to be a penis. I will never call some dude who got a sex change a woman, it just makes no sense, and I don't like this PC bullshit where we have to respect his feelings. I don't care if he does it, but Im not going to cut off the logical part of my brain, 'now he iz teh woman' No.
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Anonymous #3
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People are realizing that gender has nothing to do with your biological sex. So what? It's no different then any other cosmetic surgery when people alter their genitals. I am not a fan of cosmetic surgery at all, but some people need the security of having their body match the idea in their mind. Call it neurosis if you like...I believe it's only a symptom of the human ego, and we all struggle with that in one way or another.
People are who they are. I think it's pretty impressive that today's medicine allows our species to shapeshift and alter our appearance to such dramatic effect. It's a perfect example of consciousness manifesting itself, thought becoming form.
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Anonymous #2
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Yea they can look however they want, but it does not change reality. Men that get the surgery are still men, just horrible looking ones now. I wont ever call that person a female, as why would I? Fuck them if they can't understand reality, harsh world.
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Anonymous #4
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I have no problem with it, it is amazing i guess. But I agree of the PC issue. If you are going to change your fucking gender, get ready for the shit that is gonna come with it. Life is tough, quit being a pussy just because you bought one.
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Anonymous #5
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Anonymous said: People are realizing that gender has nothing to do with your biological sex. So what? It's no different then any other cosmetic surgery when people alter their genitals. I am not a fan of cosmetic surgery at all, but some people need the security of having their body match the idea in their mind. Call it neurosis if you like...I believe it's only a symptom of the human ego, and we all struggle with that in one way or another.
People are who they are. I think it's pretty impressive that today's medicine allows our species to shapeshift and alter our appearance to such dramatic effect. It's a perfect example of consciousness manifesting itself, thought becoming form.
very eloquently put.
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Anonymous #6
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Anybody find transexuals attractive? ive gotten stopped by a lot of transexual prostitutes and i think there disgusting. but i can watch American Gladiators and jack off to the muscular chicks. Anbody here have a shemale fetish though?
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Anonymous #7
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I do as do a few others that post in OTD.
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Anonymous #7
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Anonymous #8
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my friend in high school did this. i went to an all boys catholic high school. shes cool
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Anonymous #8
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i actually wouldnt mind fucking one. id like to give it a go, maybe ill like it?
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Anonymous #9
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yummy!!
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Anonymous #10
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yah, i'd hit the top one.
i wanna know what it looks like post-surgery tho?
anyone actually seen a surgery vagina?
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Anonymous #11
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*mutilated cock.
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Anonymous #12
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Anonymous said:
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Anonymous said: People are realizing that gender has nothing to do with your biological sex. So what? It's no different then any other cosmetic surgery when people alter their genitals. I am not a fan of cosmetic surgery at all, but some people need the security of having their body match the idea in their mind. Call it neurosis if you like...I believe it's only a symptom of the human ego, and we all struggle with that in one way or another.
People are who they are. I think it's pretty impressive that today's medicine allows our species to shapeshift and alter our appearance to such dramatic effect. It's a perfect example of consciousness manifesting itself, thought becoming form.
very eloquently put.
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Anonymous #13
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Wow, all ya'll seem very misinformed on this subject.
Transgender people are born with physical and mental sexes that differ from one another. This is not something that transgenders have any choice in. It is similar to homosexuality in this sense.
These people often grow up being very confused and lost. The sex they identify with does not match up with their body. Nor does it match up with society's expectations of their physical sex. Nor does it match up with their family's expectations of who they are.
These people have a choice:
1. Hide their real identity from the world. 2. Change their physical/outward identity.
Choice #1, while keeping the rest of the world happy, can be a traumatic choice for a transgender individual. They are constantly hiding from their friends, family, and the world. This can obviously seriously impact one's life very negatively.
Choice #2 is the one we are talking about here. Namely, sex change. Not all transgender's get a sex change. In fact, many simply change their lifestyle and dress to match their true identity while taking hormones. This doesn't fulfill the psychological needs of all transgenders though. Some need to make physical transformation to feel like they are living their true identity.
The female to male surgery is much more difficult than the male to female.
Male to female basically involves constructing labia from the sack, and inverting the penis to form a vagina. Plus plenty of other skin movements and whatnot to make it look real. Male to females often have VERY realistic looking vaginas.
Here are some examples:


Female to male is more difficult, and the results are often not as good. It is also not as common as male to female.
However, when women are given testosterone, their clitoris will often turn into a miniature penis. It will grow in size and actually be able to have little "erections".
Well, have fun with that knowledge. I want to end it by reaffirming the point that these people very often have every right to complain about the difficulties they are going through. They experience things that you couldn't even accurately imagine.
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Anonymous #2
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that last guy got his operation all fucked up
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Anonymous #14
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Yea those manginas are disgusting. I have never seen a picture of female to male though, does that really happen? I thought lesbians just wore strap-ons.
I had a teacher in college who went from mike to michelle. They fucked up the operation and it almost died so he went back to mike again. True story, he sent letters to the whole class before and after operation. Poor bastard.
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Anonymous #9
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I so wish i was a girl.
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Anonymous #15
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bwahahahahahaha, thats right, better looking than your girlfriend
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Anonymous #15
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bwahahahaha, I will enjoy raping your minds 
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Anonymous #15
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bwahahahahaha, you cant handle the truth 


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Anonymous #14
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retarded
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Anonymous #15
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bwahahahhaha, I can post more if you guys/gals want, Im done fer now


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Anonymous #16
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transgendereds are just fucking dumb, end of story
it's no more or less stupid than a white guy feeling like he should be black -- AND ACTUALLY GOING OUT AND GETTING SURGERY TO CHANGE HIS RACE AND EXPECTING PEOPLE TO TREAT HIM LEGITIMATELY
deal with what you were fucking born as. if you're a dude who dresses like a lady that's one thing -- but you're NOT a woman trapped in a man's body, YOU'RE A DUDE WHO WEARS DRESSES AND ACTS LIKE A WOMAN
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Anonymous #9
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You are weak minded individual, it's okay though, you'll become as strong as woman, one day.
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Anonymous #17
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My ex fuck bvuddy was a transgendered girl who wanted to be a guy,but she only slept with other guys,weird huh?
Hey free ass sex is fun!
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Anonymous #1
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OP here. While I appreciate the person trying to educate us, I just kind of think it's a product of our topsy-turvy society. Of course psychologists can label it, work with the people and make them think it's ok to feel this way. But is it really? In a way it's in a psychologist's best interests to let these people be weird.
It still sounds like you are saying it's all in their head. Alot of people have trouble identifying with who they are or are supposed to be. I bet most of us spent a good portion of our teenage years with this dilemma (who am I?). I think there is so much "promotion" in a way of this type of thing that it could put the idea in someone's head. Maybe someone who's having a tough time and vulnerable.
It's like an extreme version of "If only I was ..............(smarter, skinnier, richer, insert your wish here) that my life would be perfect.
Just my thoughts.
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Anonymous #18
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it kinda turns me on. id fuck a hot girl with a dick and a pussy both. not just a dick tho thats sick.
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Anonymous #19
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Anonymous #16
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rofl ya right
if you can't recognize a tranny you're fucking blind
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Anonymous #13
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Some hide it better than you would think...
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Anonymous #16
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no. not at all. you're obviously just a latent homosexual.
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Anonymous #8
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im an everything sexual i guess. i really wanna try out one of those girls in the pictures. yum.
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Anonymous #20
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Howard Stern of all people made a good point about this. If someone goes to a doctor and says his right hand is possessed by the devil and he needs it amputated, he'd rightly be declared insane and probably committed. But if you go to the doctor and say you're a woman trapped in a man's body and you need your penis cut off, we're supposed to accept that it's perfectly normal and a respectable decision. Now I'm not saying sex changes should be illegal or anything like that. As long as it doesn't affect me, you do whatever the hell you want with your own body. But in our efforts to be so politically correct we overlook the fact that there could be mental issues involved, and maybe the person needs therapy, not a brand new sculpted vagina...
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Anonymous #16
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Quote:
Anonymous said: Howard Stern of all people made a good point about this. If someone goes to a doctor and says his right hand is possessed by the devil and he needs it amputated, he'd rightly be declared insane and probably committed. But if you go to the doctor and say you're a woman trapped in a man's body and you need your penis cut off, we're supposed to accept that it's perfectly normal and a respectable decision. Now I'm not saying sex changes should be illegal or anything like that. As long as it doesn't affect me, you do whatever the hell you want with your own body. But in our efforts to be so politically correct we overlook the fact that there could be mental issues involved, and maybe the person needs therapy, not a brand new sculpted vagina...
this
i'm sorry, but if you are FUCKING CRAZY i have every right to treat you as such and not be accommodating to your crazy ass.
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Anonymous #21
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Quote:
Anonymous said: Howard Stern of all people made a good point about this. If someone goes to a doctor and says his right hand is possessed by the devil and he needs it amputated, he'd rightly be declared insane and probably committed. But if you go to the doctor and say you're a woman trapped in a man's body and you need your penis cut off, we're supposed to accept that it's perfectly normal and a respectable decision. Now I'm not saying sex changes should be illegal or anything like that. As long as it doesn't affect me, you do whatever the hell you want with your own body. But in our efforts to be so politically correct we overlook the fact that there could be mental issues involved, and maybe the person needs therapy, not a brand new sculpted vagina...
I'm inclined to agree with you here, but the "mental issues" you speak of are a modern, and temporary, way of viewing human consciousness. Transgendered behavior in society goes back eons before any concept of "mental issues" ever existed and will likely outlive it.
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Anonymous #16
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yeah, but i doubt they were mutilating their cocks and turning them into vaginas back then eons ago they were just crossdressing fags -- which is goofy, to be sure, but much more honest. compare "I'm a guy who loves cock and dressing like women" to "I'M ACTUALLY A WOMAN, EXCEPT FOR THIS PENIS!"
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Anonymous #21
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I dunno. Eunuchs have been around a long fucking time. Gallae the Hijra caste Two-Spirits
I don't think most of these people had their mental stability questioned.
Moreover, I'll have you know that I had a period of wanting to change my sex. It's over now, and I'm probably going to be a man for the foreseeable future. That said, I am and always have been a total dyke. You should think twice about your assumptions.
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Anonymous #21
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Funny how political correctness clouds the discussion no matter what side you're on, huh?
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Anonymous #1
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I believe most eunuchs were not that way by choice. That decision wasn't theirs. Most eunuchs were slaves. The ones who weren't made the choice to go higher up the social scale, not because they thought they were women in men's bodies. Another reason would be the young male singers who didn't want to lose their soprano ability. Don't think that makes a good example.
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Anonymous #22
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Anonymous said: People are realizing that gender has nothing to do with your biological sex.
no, i believe that is incorrect
mainly because gender/sex is a biological trait.
now if a gay man is too ashamed to fuck men as a man, then let science make him look like a woman so he can feel better about it. but it sure as hell doesnt mean he is.
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Anonymous #3
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Gender isn't a biological trait, it's what you self-identify as. Do some research on gender studies.
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Anonymous #21
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ALL you guys need to do some research. I just posted some friggin' links, how hard can it be? Both Hijra and Galli were castrated by choice. Nothing was forced on them. There have always been court eunuchs, who are NOT castrated by choice, but there have also been distinct "third gendered" people who chose to be castrated, as in those links, going back thousands of years.
Moreover, sex is biological. Gender is simply a set of ideas. Most people are comfortable in the gender corresponding to their sex, but this is not always the case.
I don't want to be the shrill, nagging PC defender of transgendered people here, but the volume of misconceptions here is kind of overwhelming...
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Anonymous #1
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OK, I just read your "friggen links" and first of all most of those people did not choose to become castrated. PERIOD. The first group had the largest majority who chose castration and it was for their religious beliefs. So, that brings it back to being NOT for physical reasons but for mental reasons. So chill out.
I mean wouldn't you consider someone who chose castration in reverence to their deity a little mental?
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Anonymous #22
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trannies suck.
they hit on horny soldiers only to pull out dicks bigger than theirs.
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