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Bejeezis
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Re: 9 days and nothin on quarts of rye (pics) [Re: MuShQuEsT]
#7980707 - 02/04/08 10:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Try this!
Shake the living shit outta your jars!!
That will stir up the myc inside (if there is any) and increase the rate of colonization drastically!
I just assumed you shook em but if you haven't, that will help, no doubts about it. Don't worry about the myc, it'll be growin again within 24 hours and it'll be growing from more places in the jar.
Cheers!
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galadar


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Re: 9 days and nothin on quarts of rye (pics) [Re: Bejeezis]
#7981196 - 02/05/08 12:48 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i hope they arent too dry neither. someone like me would soak for 36-48 hours but thats wheat and wheat can absorb a shitload.
also, shake the living life of it, and report back in 4-5 days.
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HybridprX
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Re: 9 days and nothing on quarts of rye (pics) [Re: galadar]
#7981682 - 02/05/08 08:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Your rye jar's look great man.
I'm going with a anti-fungicide agent in with the rye grass seed, dang fake hippie stores! 
When my friend prepares his rye jar's he soaks for 36 hours in tap water, drains in a colander and gives them a good hot water wash until that endospore smell is gone. then he lets them sit for anywhere from 6 to 12 hours, mixing them occasionally to insure they dry properly, after that he loads up the jars and PC's them for 90 minutes at 15psi.
Lets the PC cool, then dumps the grains back out into a 22qt PC and re soaks only this time adding two table spoons of instant coffee to 1mug of boiled water, caffeine acts as a stimulant to fungi and it will be absorbed by the grains during this second soak time.
The reason he does this is because the endospore in the rye here is so ridiculously high you can not have success without the second soak process.
You could try it this way to try to leech out most of the anti-fungicides from the kernels since the first PC process will soften up the outer/inner kernel, replace the water half way through the soak to insure any toxins are not re-absorbed by the kernels.
Just a theory of mine but who knows. Hope it works out for you, take care.
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Tomandjerry58
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Re: 9 days and nothing on quarts of rye (pics) [Re: HybridprX]
#7981784 - 02/05/08 08:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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did you shake after innoc? ive heard a few negative reports on shaking after inoculation but honestly if everthing is good. you should always shake the hell out of it right after you knock it up. speeds up coloniztion by atleast half the time...i would get the rye from a vendor there is no tellin what there putin in there... even if it says organic
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gawn
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Re: 9 days and nothin on quarts of rye (pics) [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7982010 - 02/05/08 10:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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you might try simmering the rye for 40-60 minutes. until you see the first signs of the kernels splitting and opening up. this would be the correct saturation point . imo
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djsethall
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Re: 9 days and nothin on quarts of rye (pics) [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7982195 - 02/05/08 11:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If I were you, I would do a LC. LC is great, because you can make it by the gallon if you want and still use as little as 1 cc of your spore syringe. I'm just a newb, but I think I have the LC part of this hobby down. I use light dried malt extract at 2% by weight with distilled water. You can get it at your local brew shop for about 3 bucks a pound. Or roughly enough to make about 22,700 ml of LC solution. Thats almost 23 liters. Remember 5 gallons is 18.9 litres. Super cheap!!! Just my 2 cents
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galadar


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Re: 9 days and nothin on quarts of rye (pics) [Re: djsethall]
#7988012 - 02/06/08 06:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i shake after multispore inoculation, after the shake, theres about 50 inoculation points within 3 days.
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JeffP170
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Re: 9 days and nothin on quarts of rye (pics) [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7993924 - 02/07/08 09:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey, I'm having the same problem and I used Bob's organic rye flour, made the jars using the same proportions as the BRF recipe and after a week, still nothing. Did I do something wrong? BTW there is no contamination in the jars so my sterilization worked well and I inoculated in four holes around the side.
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greystealth
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Re: 9 days and nothin on quarts of rye (pics) [Re: JeffP170]
#7994533 - 02/08/08 12:10 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I had BRF cakes take 2 weeks one time before showing signs of myc-then it was rapid colonization afterwards.
I used flax seed....
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MuShQuEsT
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Re: 9 days and nothin on quarts of rye (pics) [Re: greystealth]
#7994674 - 02/08/08 01:22 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well it's now been almost 13 days and still absolutely nothing. I've basically given up any hope on getting anything out of them.
I'm starting an lc tonight so hopefully that will yeild me better results on my next try
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nekrakys
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Re: 9 days and nothin on quarts of rye (pics) [Re: MuShQuEsT]
#7995730 - 02/08/08 10:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i got same problem. No contams nor mycelium growth. Maybe LC can solve problem
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JeffP170
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Re: 9 days and nothin on quarts of rye (pics) [Re: Cryogenicz]
#8058823 - 02/22/08 11:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why would you have asked the question if you already knew all you needed to learn about cultivating mushrooms? Seems a bit arrogant to me. Maybe you should eat some of what you've cultivated and mellow out a bit, the dude was trying to be helpful.
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