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hannah montana..dune..and reverse causality...
    #7978322 - 02/04/08 04:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

im getting sick of her too...but without hannah montana..there wont be a duncan idaho and no dune series either...and that means that the 1984 film version of dune is a direct effect of HM which preceded its cause by 20+ years...HM is apparently manipulating higher-order dimensions.. does that mean that hannah montana will be the first bene-gesserit??...


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Re: hannah montana..dune..and reverse causality... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #7978357 - 02/04/08 04:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I think it means Hannah Montana is the Kwisatz Haderach


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Re: hannah montana..dune..and reverse causality... [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7981436 - 02/05/08 03:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hannah Montana does seem preety powerful, but i dont think its possible for a female to become a Kwisatz Haderach.


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Re: hannah montana..dune..and reverse causality... [Re: DimensionX]
    #7981510 - 02/05/08 05:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

> I think it means Hannah Montana is the Kwisatz Haderach

I can't help but sing, "With a Kwisatz Haderach, give the dog a bone, this old man is going home" whenever I read/watch Dune.

> i dont think its possible for a female to become a Kwisatz Haderach.

In terms of the story, you are correct.


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Re: hannah montana..dune..and reverse causality... [Re: Seuss]
    #7981867 - 02/05/08 09:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

actually I think almost any genetically enhanced human kwisatz haderach was possible, at least the 'sandworms of dune' book seems to say that, like that little abomination alia.... basically any human who is unpredictable in terms of future human destiny.... I think hannah montana rae cyrus has the name for it though.


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Re: hannah montana..dune..and reverse causality... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #7981871 - 02/05/08 09:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i can see why you thought of her cause duncan idaho hannah montana, see the similarity?


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Re: hannah montana..dune..and reverse causality... [Re: eve69]
    #7982323 - 02/05/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

> actually I think almost any genetically enhanced human kwisatz haderach was possible

Nope, though I haven't read the series since his son added a book or two...

From Dune (Jessica is the character narrative):
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That is the place where we [women] cannot look, she thought. There is the place the Reverend Mothers are so reluctant to mention — the place where only a Kwisatz Haderach may look.




And from the glossary in Dune:

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KWISATZ HADERACH: "Shortening of the Way." This is the label applied by the Bene Gesserit to the unknown for which they sought a genetic solution: a male Bene Gesserit whose organic mental powers would bridge space and time.




> like that little abomination alia..

Alia wasn't a kwisatz haderach. Instead, Alia was born with all of the knowledge of a reverend mother due to Jessica drinking the water of life while pregnant with her.

(I'm taking this from the first book, not the movie or other novels in the series.)


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Re: hannah montana..dune..and reverse causality... [Re: Seuss]
    #7983360 - 02/05/08 04:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

From memory, Alia never gets powers to transcend space and time. More just advanced intelligence from being an abomination. But in sandworms of dune it is kind of put across that there can be many different kinds of kwisatz haderach.

I had a funny thought last night. The spice agony reminds me of "the thumbprint" thread on this site. Where people had to take a huge ego loss dosage of LSD to join the higher ranks of an acid family.


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Re: hannah montana..dune..and reverse causality... [Re: DimensionX]
    #7983926 - 02/05/08 06:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Love Dune (the old movie and the first three books), but who the hell is hannah montana?  I guess she is the actress from the movie?

There is no reason to answer me, Im gonna look it up right now.  :grin:


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Re: hannah montana..dune..and reverse causality... [Re: DieCommie]
    #7983938 - 02/05/08 06:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

^read the thread post...HM is a distant ancestor of duncan idaho...


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Re: hannah montana..dune..and reverse causality... [Re: DieCommie]
    #7985034 - 02/05/08 10:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Die commie-

If you like the first three books you've got to read the next one. Its called God Emperor of Dune. One of my favorites in the whole series.


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Re: hannah montana..dune..and reverse causality... [Re: DimensionX]
    #7986166 - 02/06/08 10:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've read them all. I think there's Nineteen in all. After the original three, I prefered the "House of..." series. Yeah, right, women can't be KH. My bad.


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Re: hannah montana..dune..and reverse causality... [Re: eve69]
    #7988043 - 02/06/08 06:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ive read almost all of them, i havent read all the House books yet, i agree though there really good. I think God Emperor of dune is probably my favorite, theres so many cool ideas in it.


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