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Mephisto616
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Little faith in PC
#7977478 - 02/04/08 12:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I bought a Presto 6 qt PC and followed the Lets Grow Mushroom with RR to the "T. I put down a layer of lids, then the self the PC came with, and filled the pot until it came just to the bottom of the jars. I then waited until the pressure was right and PCed for 20 min exactly + 5 min of depressurization. but after I pulled them out. I was able to pick them up with 5 minutes of sitting on my kitchen counter. They were still hot and I had to set them down after a few seconds. My concern is that the jars weren't hot enough in the PC. Is this common to be able to handle the jars soon after leaving the PC?
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Edited by Mephisto616 (02/04/08 12:08 PM)
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Re: Little faith in PC [Re: Mephisto616]
#7977495 - 02/04/08 12:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You should have left your jars in the closed pot over night so when they did cool down they didn't suck in contams like just happened to you.
Second glass is a good insulators open one up and stick your finger in see if it will burn it.
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Re: Little faith in PC [Re: MYSTIQUE]
#7977780 - 02/04/08 01:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can't sterilize anything in 20 minutes except LC, as far as I know, even BRF should be 60 minutes minimum, although you can get by with just pasteurizing BRF or so I hear.
PC rye grains for 90-120 minutes.
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Mephisto616
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Re: Little faith in PC [Re: Day Tripper]
#7977799 - 02/04/08 02:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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since I did this last night, is it okay to put back in the PC for the correct amount of time? or am I screwed and should start over. the holes are covers with micro pore tape and a layer of tin foil. And a small towel while cooling over night. so I doubt anything could have gotten in there since removal. if I can re-PC then you said 60 min in PC at 15 psi?
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Re: Little faith in PC [Re: Mephisto616]
#7977876 - 02/04/08 02:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I use 60 minutes at 15psi, or steam for 120 minutes. Allow to cool slowly until room temperature, or at least let them cool until only gently warm. If you PC at night, they'll be perfect to get out the next morning to inoculate. RR
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Re: Little faith in PC [Re: Mephisto616]
#7977918 - 02/04/08 02:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mephisto616 said: I bought a Presto 6 qt PC and followed the Lets Grow Mushroom with RR to the "T. I put down a layer of lids, then the self the PC came with, and filled the pot until it came just to the bottom of the jars. I then waited until the pressure was right and PCed for 20 min exactly + 5 min of depressurization.
I have watched the entirety of the DVD and don't recall RR ever directly stating through narration or motion graphics that one should PC "for 20 min exactly + 5 min of depressurization" - if you followed it to a T, where did you get this information?
If you are doing PF Cakes I don't think a second round of pressure cooking would be very detrimental.
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Re: Little faith in PC [Re: Mephisto616]
#7977996 - 02/04/08 03:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mephisto616 said: since I did this last night, is it okay to put back in the PC for the correct amount of time? or am I screwed and should start over. the holes are covers with micro pore tape and a layer of tin foil. And a small towel while cooling over night. so I doubt anything could have gotten in there since removal. if I can re-PC then you said 60 min in PC at 15 psi?
Yeah, you can re-PC them, no worries bro.
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Re: Little faith in PC [Re: xeallos]
#7978728 - 02/04/08 05:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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xeallos said:
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Mephisto616 said: I bought a Presto 6 qt PC and followed the Lets Grow Mushroom with RR to the "T. I put down a layer of lids, then the self the PC came with, and filled the pot until it came just to the bottom of the jars. I then waited until the pressure was right and PCed for 20 min exactly + 5 min of depressurization.
I have watched the entirety of the DVD and don't recall RR ever directly stating through narration or motion graphics that one should PC "for 20 min exactly + 5 min of depressurization" - if you followed it to a T, where did you get this information?
If you are doing PF Cakes I don't think a second round of pressure cooking would be very detrimental.
I was talking about RRs PF cake building I said i replaced his boiling with PCing
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Re: Little faith in PC [Re: Mephisto616]
#7978885 - 02/04/08 05:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was talking about RRs PF cake building I said i replaced his boiling with PCing
The DVD says to steam for 90 to 120 minutes. The PC is only 38 degrees warmer than boiling, so how did you figure to cut the time by 80%?
PC 1/2 pint pf jars for an hour. Cool down time is three to four hours, not five minutes. RR
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