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The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit.
    #7977207 - 02/04/08 10:37 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Within the last couple of months I seemed to have reached a breaking over point of some kind. A couple of years ago I accepted the idea that I should only focus my attention in places where I wanted results quickly. This meant dropping my attachments to other people’s ideas and opinions. As well as to stop living up to other people’s ideas about what I should do or be, and live only for myself. I wanted to enjoy complete freedom from self judgment and the judgments of others. As I said I accepted this idea as the proper way to live for me, and I have worked to live up to it, but often I have failed by relapsing into caring about the opinions of others and indulging in self judgment and comparison. Now it seems that all of a sudden I have started to not really give a shit about many things. Particularly where the ideas and opinions of others are concerned. Lately I have stopped worrying about anything that I am not directly interested in. I do not allow others to hook my attention at all unless it fits with my plans. To some observers it would appear that most of my family and friendship relationships are deteriorating. I disregard the attempts that most people make to get my attention. I have narrowed my relationships down to maintaining just a couple of relationships that I am interested in. It would seem that my life was falling apart if I weren’t so damn happy. Except for the few areas where I am actively seeking results the rest of my life has fallen into chaos. I feel like I have been let go after being restrained for a long time. I don’t give a shit, and I don’t want to start.


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7977248 - 02/04/08 10:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

"It would seem that my life was falling apart if I weren’t so damn happy"


RIGHT WITH YA BROTHER! I broke up with my girlfriend. Practically dont give a shit about my family's opinions because the majority of them are trying so hard to "Hold on" to a perception of how the world should be or what will make them happy that they are fucking miserable! Why would i chase that.

I honestly can say i will be moving to the woods and living the life i want for a while. I caint tell you how fed up i am with others. Not to mention caring about how im viewed by them.

That quote i took from ya is funny man. You've earned some shroomies for that one.


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7977250 - 02/04/08 10:56 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I have observed that the moments in which I don't generally give a shit coincide with the moments when I mostly get over myself.
However, I open myself up to those moments of unprovoked connection. :heart:


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
    #7977465 - 02/04/08 12:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I am not fed up. I respect and totally accept the choices of others. That doesn't mean that I have to accept their choices for me. I just want things to play out as they are while I ride the wave.


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7977470 - 02/04/08 12:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Within the last couple of months I seemed to have reached a breaking over point of some kind. A couple of years ago I accepted the idea that I should only focus my attention in places where I wanted results quickly. This meant dropping my attachments to other people’s ideas and opinions. As well as to stop living up to other people’s ideas about what I should do or be, and live only for myself. I wanted to enjoy complete freedom from self judgment and the judgments of others. As I said I accepted this idea as the proper way to live for me, and I have worked to live up to it, but often I have failed by relapsing into caring about the opinions of others and indulging in self judgment and comparison. Now it seems that all of a sudden I have started to not really give a shit about many things.  Particularly  where  the ideas and opinions of others are concerned.  Lately I have stopped worrying about anything that I am not directly interested in. I do not allow others to hook my attention at all unless it fits with my plans. To some observers it would appear that most of my family and friendship relationships are deteriorating. I disregard the attempts that most people make to get my attention. I have narrowed  my relationships down to maintaining just a couple of relationships that I am interested in. It would seem that my life was falling apart if I weren’t so damn happy.  Except for the few areas where I am actively seeking results the rest of my life has fallen into chaos. I feel like I have been let go after being restrained for a long time. I don’t give a shit, and I don’t want to start.




Hue, you need therapy. I'm sure you can become unhappy again and learn to care about others welfare. You just need to work at it. (and believe) Don't give up.:heart:


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7977535 - 02/04/08 12:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hail that Victory!

Hallelujah brother!


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Icelander]
    #7977677 - 02/04/08 01:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

There has been some degree of falling apart that has occurred that I have not let on about in our conversations. Lots of people are somewhat on the outs with me on their part due to my "inconsiderate" action. I have not tended many types of personal business like seeing to my financial matters. I have let everything go down the shit hole except for what pleases me right now. I feel like a pendulum that has been let go. I guess it might swing back and forth wildly before settling down, but really I don't much care. I am going to dispose of most of my personal possesions and leave where I am now.


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7977825 - 02/04/08 02:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well really, why not? It's your life and you should decide for yourself how to live it and what will be important for you. It's the hardest thing in the world to do. You won't get any good at it if you don't practice.

If you're resilient then whatever comes of your experiments will be fodder for your future.


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7977890 - 02/04/08 02:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:werd:


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7978140 - 02/04/08 03:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I did what other people told me to do for so long and tried to live up to impossible expectations that I did not and could not meet. Fuck all that. I just want to have fun and be free. I am not sure that it is an experiment. I see it as another phase in a process that is non-reversible.


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7978280 - 02/04/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I agree, it is hard to care when your ecstatic!  :smile:


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: sunflower]
    #7981584 - 02/05/08 07:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This kind of reminds me of spring cleaning. Even though the end result is great and beautiful it can get messy while you are cleaning house.


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7981818 - 02/05/08 09:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I did what other people told me to do for so long and tried to live up to impossible expectations that I did not and could not meet. Fuck all that. I just want to have fun and be free. I am not sure that it is an experiment. I see it as another phase in a process that is non-reversible.





Well I mean life is an experiment.  It takes a lot of living to realize that what we do really has little effect on others no matter what they claim and that we will soon be dead and our only rewards are the ones we claim by living out some of our real desires. Go for it Hue. I'm enjoying watching  it all unfold. I've never witnessed someone change so dramatically, in such (IMO) positive ways in such a short time. It's really fun and inspiring to watch.:thumbup:


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7986310 - 02/06/08 11:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Oh yea ! :thumbup:
I remember our first small discussion here on the board whether god blesses America and your tough defending soldier style :grin:
Intriguing :thumbup:


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7986419 - 02/06/08 12:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Fuck America! Fuck the Army too! They did teach me to hate authority...so they can't really be bad...but fuck em anyway.


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7986582 - 02/06/08 12:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

to believe in nothing is to illuminate everything.

though i have found that apathy is a razors edge between freedom and despair.


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Archemetis]
    #7986605 - 02/06/08 01:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

'but fuck em anyway.'

The forces in nature that they seem to embody are... impressive.


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7986756 - 02/06/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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Fuck America! Fuck the Army too! They did teach me to hate authority...so they can't really be bad...but fuck em anyway.




What about your Mommy and Daddy?


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Icelander]
    #7986910 - 02/06/08 02:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

They can live in peace and I wish them all of the best, but their dream is not mine.


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7987087 - 02/06/08 02:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Is that the same as "fuck them"?

I'm asking because I want to know if you draw a line somewhere and what that line is based on? You can say fuck America without batting an eye but really it's the human family as much as your personal family is. Are you attached in ways to them (emotionally) that you are not to humanity at large?


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Icelander]
    #7987264 - 02/06/08 03:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I was joking to a degree. In reality I don't have real animosity towards America or the Army, but I do draw a line. America is an institution....NOT people. The Army is an institution. When I say fuck America or the Army I say fuck the political institutions that they represent. I want all people to have happiness and peace, though their dream may not be mine. I won't stand in their way or tell them how to do their thing. I wish all people the best....you know peace on Earth and all of that good shit. However, MY attention is my own and I won't let institutions OR people have it unless I fancy giving it.

Now I must say that I can deal with things (people, institutions, objects) in my own way. I have no standards to meet...only my own. I don't even have to be consistent. I am out to be happy...not conform to other peoples version of it. I assign importance to what I want to give attention to in the way I choose. That's the beauty of not giving a shit.


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Edited by Huehuecoyotl (02/06/08 03:29 PM)


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7987402 - 02/06/08 03:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I agree 100% :thumbup:


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7988698 - 02/06/08 07:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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America is an institution....NOT people. The Army is an institution. When I say fuck America or the Army I say fuck the political institutions that they represent. I want all people to have happiness and peace, though their dream may not be mine. I won't stand in their way or tell them how to do their thing. I wish all people the best....you know peace on Earth and all of that good shit. However, MY attention is my own and I won't let institutions OR people have it unless I fancy giving it.

Now I must say that I can deal with things (people, institutions, objects) in my own way. I have no standards to meet...only my own. I don't even have to be consistent. I am out to be happy...not conform to other peoples version of it. I assign importance to what I want to give attention to in the way I choose. That's the beauty of not giving a shit.




Yes!!:yesnod::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Do extra emoticons effectively express the extreme degree of agreement I feel towards the quoted statement?


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7989039 - 02/06/08 08:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I don't even have to be consistent. I am out to be happy..

Really, really good.:thumbup: This insures a measure of success.


Edited by Icelander (02/06/08 08:43 PM)


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Icelander]
    #7990530 - 02/07/08 05:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm confused. I was sure that I was going to have an argument on my hands immediately. You feeling alright, man?


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7990844 - 02/07/08 09:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Occasionally you get it right. Way to go weedhopper!


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Icelander]
    #7993492 - 02/07/08 07:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Even a blind hog finds an ear of corn every now and then.


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7993531 - 02/07/08 07:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Is that the Kentucky version of "even a stopped clock is right twice a day"?  :lol:


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Veritas]
    #7993562 - 02/07/08 07:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I believe it is a bit more colloquial (see I know a big word) than just Kentucky. I have only heard it once in a really backwoods (and backwards) community about 30 miles north.


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Re: The Journey to I Don’t Give a Shit. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #8022470 - 02/14/08 01:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
Fuck America! Fuck the Army too! They did teach me to hate authority...so they can't really be bad...but fuck em anyway.



2b critical of authority is always a good. I, f.e. always need a 'why' and a 'because' before I even can start doing something.
Now what I tell ya I think is, G*D blessed/s the world, especially all living forms on it and wants us/some to defend that ?
Profane to misuse.


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