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Ensuring visuals!
    #7975818 - 02/03/08 10:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hello fellow trippers.
ive expierenced p. cubensis 3 times and have gotten alright visuals. once 1 gram, and twice 1.25 grams. although im very cautious about hallucinagenics I would like to ensure medium/hard visuals this time around.

what does it take y'all to get this level of visuals? thanks guys...


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Re: Ensuring visuals! [Re: radar_rider]
    #7975827 - 02/03/08 10:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

try 2 grams. you can always take more during the trip if you want more visuals.


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Re: Ensuring visuals! [Re: THEBats]
    #7975861 - 02/03/08 11:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You can't enforce visuals without dosing so high that you actually don't feel quiet easy during the trip.
The amounts of Cubes you used are quiet small and you had "luck" to seeing visuals at all!
As all the other facets of a trip, the visuals come and go like they "want". There's nothing you can do about it!
Personally I think that cubes are not the best decision when it comes to visuals, since you often need doses that cause kind of body highs that can be quiet annoying (as I said: personally).
There are other species are more likely to use, when it comes to visuals, such as Pan. Cyanescens, Ps. Cyanescens or Ps. Azurescens.
In my own experience (and as well the ones of plenty of other people),
these mushrooms provide great visual potential in quiet low doses without the problem of a too weird mind fuck / body high.


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Re: Ensuring visuals! [Re: THEBats]
    #7975877 - 02/03/08 11:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Go with a full 1/8th. It may seem like a large amount in comparison to the dosage sizes that you've taken so far, but if you really want to know what shrooms are all about, that is the amount you'll likely need. It should not be much of a problem. Mushrooms aren't one of the more brutal buzzes out there.


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Re: Ensuring visuals! [Re: FestrunneR]
    #7975883 - 02/03/08 11:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I can get minor visuals from around a gram, but nowhere near strong. I find a pretty heft increase in them around the 2 gram mark, and much more around 3 grams.


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Re: Ensuring visuals! [Re: wildchild68]
    #7975897 - 02/03/08 11:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I would say 3-4 grams for good visuals, IMO anyway.


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Re: Ensuring visuals! [Re: spieone]
    #7975904 - 02/03/08 11:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I totally disagree with the idea that the mushrooms give you the kind of trip they want. I think you make your own trip. If you're talking to a bunch of people, you're not going to experience visuals. If you're sitting alone in a well-lit room, you'll experience tons of visuals. That's been my experience. It's all about what you want to do.


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Re: Ensuring visuals! [Re: wildchild68]
    #7975908 - 02/03/08 11:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Anything below 2.5 and I just get increased edge detection, and colors appear more vibrant. Around 2.5-3 I get spacial distortion, eg something that is 10 feet away may look 20-30 feet in distance. around 3.5-4g I get swirling patterns on floors/wallpapers, extreme spacial distortion, one time on 4g I could see sounds, and iirc I could also see smells I believe. Normally though, even with 3g to an eigth I don't get much in the way of visuals other than everything appears more vibrant and increased edge detection, but that's all I really want anyways. I love mushrooms for what they teach me and the appreciation for everything they give me. The visual enhancements are just a great bonus. I could care less for things that essentially degrade my vision.


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Re: Ensuring visuals! [Re: krypto2000]
    #7975946 - 02/03/08 11:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like you need to up the dose, like others said. I would definitely go with an eighth (3.5 grams, it's an eighth of an ounce). It's enough to give you visuals, especially if you make tea with that much, oh jollies...

I'm going to take 7g my next time, I've done them three times, and a mushroom trip ain't too bad on an eighth, it's a lot less intense than acid, so I wanna see if I can bring back some great memories..


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Re: Ensuring visuals! [Re: tyler_0_durden]
    #7977204 - 02/04/08 10:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I totally disagree with the idea that the mushrooms give you the kind of trip they want. I think you make your own trip. If you're talking to a bunch of people, you're not going to experience visuals. If you're sitting alone in a well-lit room, you'll experience tons of visuals. That's been my experience. It's all about what you want to do.




You're right in one way! If the trip actually provides visuals you can enhance their power, but sometimes, you don't see a thing, while tripping balls. No matter what you do then, there won't be any visuals beyond a slight moving, colour enhancement etc.
Additional, I mostly trip with a bunch of people around me and we're talking most of the time. From time to time you watch something anyway and you'll see visual effects. You don't actually have to sit down and concentrate to see stuff. Again, WHEN you sit down and concentrate, these effects will enhance, no question, but as I said, some trips just don't care ANY so called visuals at all.

In the end, everyone experience different things on mushrooms, as well as anyone needs different amounts of them to get the desired effects.

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Anything below 2.5 and I just get increased edge detection, and colors appear more vibrant. Around 2.5-3 I get spacial distortion, eg something that is 10 feet away may look 20-30 feet in distance. around 3.5-4g I get swirling patterns on floors/wallpapers, extreme spacial distortion, one time on 4g I could see sounds, and iirc I could also see smells I believe. Normally though, even with 3g to an eigth I don't get much in the way of visuals other than everything appears more vibrant and increased edge detection, but that's all I really want anyways. I love mushrooms for what they teach me and the appreciation for everything they give me. The visual enhancements are just a great bonus. I could care less for things that essentially degrade my vision.




I'm very sensitive when it comes to psychedelics and therefore I'd probably kill myself, after havering eaten 7 gr. of cubes (not really, but I guess I wish I would have).

Although I cultivate cubes all day and night, I eat them very rarely since I have enough Ps. Cyanescens to trip to the end of my days.
Personally and from what I've heard from all the people around me, I think their trip is MUCH better than a cube trip. This is definitely a question of personal taste, but everyone I've talked to, tripped with and know, says that these kind of mushrooms (wood lovers), provide a lot more visual effects than cubes. At least they cause much more visuals in lower doses without the -sometimes- very annoying side effects.
I need 1.2 gr. of Ps. Cyans to perceive great visuals. Not only an enhancement of colors but all the stuff you the fella above was talking about when he ate 3 grams of cubes.
My favorite dose is 1.6 grams. It's an easy to handle dose, with lot's of visuals and fun, but without all the disorientation and weirdness.
I've eaten 2.6 once and will probably not do it again for many years

Anyway, what I wanted to say by writing this is, -and I've said that before, I know!- that everyone has his very own way of perception effects when eating mushrooms.
All the things I say, are from my very own personal experience. Sometimes they are enforced by the statements of my tripping buddies and guys I know, but in the end, they are the product of my experience, as well as yours :wink:


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Re: Ensuring visuals! [Re: Fahkface]
    #7977464 - 02/04/08 12:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

fahkface, would you say Cyanescens give you less of a mind fuck/racing thoughts and what not than cubes? I've only eaten cubes so I have nothing to compare them to besides maybe lsd.


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Re: Ensuring visuals! [Re: krypto2000]
    #7977488 - 02/04/08 12:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Definately! As I said, they give high-dose-cube visuals in low doses. Therefore the unpleasent side effects are almost non existent.


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Re: Ensuring visuals! [Re: Fahkface]
    #7977873 - 02/04/08 02:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Just take 1/8th.

You'll live.


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Re: Ensuring visuals! [Re: g00ru]
    #7977893 - 02/04/08 02:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

eaight is good...
ive ate 5 gs and gave me pretty good visuals


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