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MiSTRFiNGA
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40/40/20 Casing question
#7975770 - 02/03/08 10:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have a question for "old hands" I have WBS substrate, that I spawned to coir substrate (from a recent post I read on these forums )and incubated. The substrate is now ready to be cased. I made a 50/50, but my dumb-ass made it coir/verm, not peat/verm. Now after realizing I already mixed all the verm I had, I thought I would use some of my black kow (black gold) and "dilute" this casing mix. So it is now approx a 40/40/20 coir/verm/black kow mix. This has been pasturized and ready to go. Do you reccommend me adding more cow, or peat to this to dilute more, or just trashing it and buying and mixing a true 50/50 peat/verm? Thanks!!
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im_on_a_boat
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: MiSTRFiNGA]
#7975783 - 02/03/08 10:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i would say just do it and see how it goes..
i mean it's really up to you..
i think it'll work.
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: im_on_a_boat]
#7975797 - 02/03/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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not an old man as experience yo are looking for, but old man the same. i posted here expecting you to run with it and update us. let us know. and run with it
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MiSTRFiNGA
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well I JUST posted it about 20 mins agop so I havent gone yet to see if I get any replies
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: MiSTRFiNGA]
#7976332 - 02/04/08 01:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dont trash it!coir ,cofee and poo are about the same producing and can be used up too 100%. So you have about a 60/40 nutrious/waterholding sub that is just waiting for you to spawn something to it. Start over on the 50/50 verm and peat this time and use it to case your subs.
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: MYSTIQUE]
#7976335 - 02/04/08 01:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You've basically made it a nutritive layer that the mycelium network will attempt to fully colonize. I would personally make some separate 50/50+. None of the materials are going to break the bank for you.
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: Crasher]
#7976341 - 02/04/08 01:48 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Don't do it trash it and do it right this hobby has little room for error that you don't even know about. So why make an error you know about?...
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: joshua m]
#7976343 - 02/04/08 01:50 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No! don't trash it! Use it for for another spawn run, just don't use it as a casing layer. Conservation of materials is always a plus.
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: Crasher]
#7976378 - 02/04/08 02:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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RIGHT ON
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MiSTRFiNGA
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: Crasher]
#7976393 - 02/04/08 02:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Grrrr! I got impatient after reading the post of "try it and tell us", and cased 2 of the 4 with it. I guess I will get MORE substrate bed from it then. I don't know. I guess it will be an experiment for me now. I will make a 50/50 peat/verm, and see how much of this sudo substrate I made gets colonized. Here are pixx of the colonized sub I covered in 3/4"-1" of the 40/40/20.





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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: MiSTRFiNGA]
#7976403 - 02/04/08 02:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thats...unique looking.
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MiSTRFiNGA
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: Crasher]
#7976411 - 02/04/08 02:40 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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?? That is how all of my casings have looked with wbs to coir before I cased them. What looks odd to you? I thought they looked beautiful!
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: MiSTRFiNGA]
#7976417 - 02/04/08 02:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Don't mind me, I've been out of the loop for a while. I just don't remember my spawn runs looking like that.
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MiSTRFiNGA
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: Crasher]
#7976419 - 02/04/08 02:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No worries bro. Was just curious as to your insight/opinion!
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: MiSTRFiNGA]
#7976424 - 02/04/08 02:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good luck with the experiment. I think if it goes well, the thicker substrate layer will only help your flushes. I can't wait to see pics of the finished product.
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MiSTRFiNGA
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: Crasher]
#7976429 - 02/04/08 02:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Herd. I am assuming/hoping it just makes a more solid substrate layer that can support a few large flushes, and I can tear them away easier without damagin the core too much. Pixx will follow in about 4 days...hopefully
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joshua m
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: Crasher]
#7976434 - 02/04/08 02:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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That looks like optimal spawn run to me with highly rhizmorphic growth
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: joshua m]
#7976771 - 02/04/08 07:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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First of all, this forum isnt an "old hand" questionnaire, its a public forum so you will get answers from whomever is nice enough to donate their time, you don't get to choose who responds to you.
That being said...
WTF? You're trying to dilute your casing with cow manure? A proper casing layer is a non nutritious layer to hold in moisture. Making it out of coir is simply making additional substrate. Then you proceed to mix cow manure with your casing in hopes of diluting it? All you are doing is making the problem worse by doing that. You are adding more nutes to what you had intended to be a casing layer. You are now left with something that is certainly NOT a casing layer, its a bulk substrate layer. Your mycelium will grow right through that which is fine but I would suggest casing it with some peat and verm or just use verm if thats all you have. The casing layer doesn't need to be fancy, its primary purpose is to hold in moisture.
I'm still confused as to why you would "dilute" a casing layer with cow manure? That just boggles my mind.
Anyway, I say keep what you've mixed as a nice bulk sub and then go buy some JiffyMix or MGMC and use that as a casing layer or make your own using non-nutritious material such as verm and peat.
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shroober
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: shroober]
#7976774 - 02/04/08 07:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Btw, your trays are looking really healthy, just case those things and you should get some very nice yields.
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joshua m
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Re: 40/40/20 Casing question [Re: shroober]
#7977076 - 02/04/08 09:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Word shroober
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