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OfflineSamurai_Jim
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A grain hydrating question.
    #7975572 - 02/03/08 09:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

When hydrating Rey Grain, could you let it soak for 24 hrs then boil it for 10 mins and then let it cool afterwards draining it out? Would this help hydration any better?


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Re: A grain hydrating question. [Re: Samurai_Jim]
    #7975616 - 02/03/08 10:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Simmer until you burst your first grain. Don't boil. Otherwise, I don't see how this is in any way different.


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Re: A grain hydrating question. [Re: thedefone]
    #7975734 - 02/03/08 10:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

in my experience. soak for no more the 18 hours. and sure as hell don't boil. just my experience. i always have problems with over hydration and rot even at those specs. what have you tried. why are you asking this question?>


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Re: A grain hydrating question. [Re: lovingtickels]
    #7975802 - 02/03/08 10:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I read a post where RR said to soak for 24-36 hr, after rinsing well. THen boil for 10 mins and drain in a collander untill no water drips out when you toss it.

I thought it was pretty accepted that if RR said it, you could take it to the bank.

here's the link:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7000595#7000595


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Re: A grain hydrating question. [Re: Samurai_Jim]
    #7975817 - 02/03/08 10:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

amen. yes i also agree. take my advice with a grain of salt. i do not mean to misslead. i can only speak of what works for me and im no rr. that link is new to me, and im excited to see it. i got something new to try tomrrow night:cool:


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Re: A grain hydrating question. [Re: lovingtickels]
    #7975837 - 02/03/08 10:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I don't think you are misleading, just stating what you have experienced so far. I'm trying to read everything I can by RR, he seems to know his stuff. I figure if he can do it as well as he does, I should be able to also, right?


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Re: A grain hydrating question. [Re: Samurai_Jim]
    #7975848 - 02/03/08 10:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

we try to exceed the bars set by others using everything we can learn from them. at least that is why i am here. to know, demonstrate and gain the experience of others.


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Re: A grain hydrating question. [Re: lovingtickels]
    #7975878 - 02/03/08 11:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i boil until the first kernel burts, I do not soak at all. Then I drain it until it stops dripping about 5 mins. Then jar it up and pc it for an hour, i do the same for wbs but I pc for 45 mins.

letting hot grain sit in a strainer will cause it to dry out rapidly.


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Re: A grain hydrating question. [Re: tahoe]
    #7975887 - 02/03/08 11:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i thought soaking allows some forms of contaiment to germinate first, then killed dead with the pc.


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Re: A grain hydrating question. [Re: lovingtickels]
    #7976109 - 02/04/08 12:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

lovingtickels said:
i thought soaking allows some forms of contaiment to germinate first, then killed dead with the pc.



it does. it is very noticable with rye. If you let it soak for 2 days tehre will be a shit load of stuff growing on it, all ahiry and whispy.
I have had problems not soaking/simmering rye. If I just mix it with water and pc'ed it i would have contams. If I simmer/boil it first and then pc it, it has been fine.


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