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Offlinerungold315
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Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues?
    #7975312 - 02/03/08 09:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I once took shrooms back in March or so and had a HORRIBLE trip. Heres my old post back then...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6724444#6724444

Anyway, time has passed and my brain is back to normal for the most part. However, I still feel the shrooms have stuck with me in a way. I am no longer feeling delusional and insane, but I am in a constant state of unhappiness and feeling emotionless. Except for my anger issues, which became much more prominent after the trip effects faded. The shrooms intensifed all my old negative feelings Ive had before the trip (anger, depression, sadness) and pretty much depleted or masked all the positive ones Ive had. For instance, Ive probably only laughed like once in my life since the trip, no exaggeration, and people tell me I constantly have a sad or mad expression plastered on my face even when I dont realize it. Being miserable is who I am now. I am constantly plagued with the mistakes Ive made in the past, failures in the present, and insecurities about the future.

So heres what I"m thinking. Can I reverse the effects with another type of psychedlic? Is there a way out of this hell hole? I cannot be successful in life even If i "put my mind to it" because that is the root of MY problem! My mind. My tormented mind plagued with negative thoughts like anger, regret, sadness, fear, etc. etc. I need to escape my mindset, or change it permanently. I NEED another psychelic, I simply cannot do it on my own. Is there one out there?


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: rungold315]
    #7975332 - 02/03/08 09:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

you need a good healer! and sometimes they use psychedelics


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: rungold315]
    #7975336 - 02/03/08 09:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If mushrooms did that to you, it's not like any other psychedelic is going to be the holy grail of happiness. You should probably solve these problems sober before you go back to psychs, if you ever do.

Sounds like you might have had some latent depression/bipolar issues that mushrooms brought out. I'm no doctor so don't take my word for it, that's just how I see it.

If I had to recommend some sort of drug, it would probably be MDMA, but if I were you I would abstain from all drugs until you get your emotional life on track.


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: rungold315]
    #7975346 - 02/03/08 09:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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rungold315 said:
I once took shrooms back in March or so and had a HORRIBLE trip. Heres my old post back then...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6724444#6724444

Anyway, time has passed and my brain is back to normal for the most part. However, I still feel the shrooms have stuck with me in a way. I am no longer feeling delusional and insane, but I am in a constant state of unhappiness and feeling emotionless. Except for my anger issues, which became much more prominent after the trip effects faded. The shrooms intensifed all my old negative feelings Ive had before the trip (anger, depression, sadness) and pretty much depleted or masked all the positive ones Ive had. For instance, Ive probably only laughed like once in my life since the trip, no exaggeration, and people tell me I constantly have a sad or mad expression plastered on my face even when I dont realize it. Being miserable is who I am now. I am constantly plagued with the mistakes Ive made in the past, failures in the present, and insecurities about the future.

So heres what I"m thinking. Can I reverse the effects with another type of psychedlic? Is there a way out of this hell hole? I cannot be successful in life even If i "put my mind to it" because that is the root of MY problem! My mind. My tormented mind plagued with negative thoughts like anger, regret, sadness, fear, etc. etc. I need to escape my mindset, or change it permanently. I NEED another psychelic, I simply cannot do it on my own. Is there one out there?




this is risky waters we're entering friend. psychedelics are not for people in unstable mind sets, which sounds like what you're dealing with.


Edited by THEBats (02/03/08 09:13 PM)


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: thedudenj]
    #7975360 - 02/03/08 09:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

entertaining how the human has complete control of their physical & psychic being yet play these games then ask questions knowing that the soul individual truely has the answer.


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: HugaDeadHead]
    #7975368 - 02/03/08 09:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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HugaDeadHead said:
entertaining how the human has complete control of their physical & psychic being yet play these games then ask questions knowing that the soul individual truely has the answer.




I know I'm jumping to conclusions, but I'm gonna assume you've never gone through a true clinical depression. Because it's never that easy.


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: g00ru]
    #7975379 - 02/03/08 09:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

life in general is depressing if choice is to dwell with such feeling.


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: HugaDeadHead]
    #7975386 - 02/03/08 09:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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HugaDeadHead said:
life in general is depressing if choice is to dwell with such feeling.




for some yes. though some do not choose to dwell with such feeling. it builds and piles on; overtakes them.


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: THEBats]
    #7975410 - 02/03/08 09:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

it does take someone to build or pile all that overtakes them. be foolish to assume that someone is not the one who dwells.


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: HugaDeadHead]
    #7975425 - 02/03/08 09:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Mescaline can be a very healing psychedelic.


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: Grylls]
    #7975443 - 02/03/08 09:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Try Trichocereus cactus...

You won't have a bad trip and it should be awe inspiring.


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7975471 - 02/03/08 09:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

untying knots can be a difficult task.


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: HugaDeadHead]
    #7975583 - 02/03/08 10:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I definitely think mushrooms could help you. Will they, I don't know. They could also make it worse. I think the chances of it helping are better than making it worse but again, is it worth the risk?

I used to be depressed and I largely attribute overcoming that to mushrooms. I had a really horrible trip one time, worst time of my life, but this was also the trip I attribute to overcoming my depression. Since then however I have been very apprehensive about doing mushrooms again always sticking with small doses which seems to just make me confused and have lots of anxiety. I almost always would leave those trips not getting anything out of it and feeling depressed. I finally feel I've gotten over this by tripping this past friday. I would guess this is what happened to you though, based on your previous thread.

Again though, it's up to you man. I haven't done mescaline, but from what I've heard it's much more clear headed and probably a better option for you. Also lsd is usually more easy on you than mushrooms and less likely to lead to a bad trip, so if you could try either of those then you might want to think of that.


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: krypto2000]
    #7975762 - 02/03/08 10:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i suggest going to that psychedelic ebooks thread in this forum and reading some books on psychiatric treatment with psychedelics.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7915585/an/0/page/0/gonew/1#UNREAD

should be helpful.


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: KrishnaDreamer] * 1
    #7976873 - 02/04/08 08:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Mushrooms have helped me out of a depression that has lasted years.  Before tripping I had conditioned myself to be a robot.  I did my best to not feel my emotions because I could be hurt that way.  I lived without love or hate and felt empty and meaningless.  I distinctly remember a day in the 4th grade that I thought about how cool a cold and distant character was on TV because what other people said couldn't hurt him.  He wasn't very expressive and never seemed connected to everyone else.  I molded myself into that guy and consequently talked with minimal emotional affect as a teenager.

Mushrooms have showed me how my old way of living life is fucked up.  I was ruled by what other people thought of me.  Instead of controlling what I felt like I had intended, I had handed the keys of my emotion to anyone that spit some venom my way.

I tripped again two nights ago after a long break and now have the will to go out there and do things in the world.  A year ago I was considering driving my car into a tree every time I drove just to ended this existence of suffering.  I had neglected the joy that comes with the suffering and it made me feel like shit until I fixed it. 

Remember, the drugs won't magically fix you, but they will give you a different perspective so that you can fix yourself.  Understand how you got to where you are and things can be worked out.  Keep asking questions and don't be afraid to feel :smile:


Edited by arpnuke (02/04/08 08:42 AM)


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: arpnuke]
    #7976945 - 02/04/08 09:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

no cactus or mushroom or pill can help you. unless you are truly willing to be humble and let go of apathy and all the negativity you can eat all the acid in the world and it doesn't seem to help you.


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: arpnuke]
    #7976998 - 02/04/08 09:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Rungold, I have been in a similar situation myself. I've never been a very open person, but I have short bursts where I feel life is worth living. I went a few years without having one of those bursts and thought that I would never be happy again. What I eventually had to do was something drastic. It was either end my life or find some meaning. I can't say that I've found any meaning yet, life still feels like a dream, but that makes it more enjoyable. Do whatever you feel. Don't be afraid. What may seem like bad decisions at first may actually be very good. Make a fool of yourself.
I used to be petrified by the thought of going outside walking by myself. I eventually did it and started running every night. At first it was hard because I felt that everyone was looking at me and judging me. I almost stopped doing it for awhile because some dicks in a jeep nailed me with a water balloon. But I did it anyway. There are some fucked up people in the world, but the reality is that most people don't give a shit.
Do what you know you need to do and don't let any motherfucker get in the way. Don't buy into other people's remedies. Ignore what I am saying if you think it's a load of shit. Don't take the easy way out (suicide, one size fits all diets, exercise tapes). Have fun and improve your life. Take it slow and know that any life is valuable. Sometimes the realization you have to come to is that you have made some fucked up mistakes. Love yourself for those mistakes. There's nothing so bad you can't fix. Life is a dream. Noone sees things as clearly as they think they can. don't ignore other people's perspective of reality, but don't blindly accept them either. you'll find that you are right in most cases, but others are trying just the same and you can laugh about it when you realize one is a little off.
Sorry for the permafried rant, but know that life is not static. things will change if you let them.


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: lifeson2112]
    #7977053 - 02/04/08 09:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I had the same question some people like yourself had when comming to this forum. When i first tried mushrooms i was very scared but afterwards it was so amazing that i made it a goal to set my mind to a "Correct" way to use and enjoy psychedelics.

I can honestly say i have accomplished that. But i had to do it sober. Someone/something may give you a answer. You may know its the answer and get a awsome feeling just from thinking about "The answer"

However unless you act on "The answer" It is nothing more then an experiance or a group of words. You can fix your mental demons most likely. However it wont be easy. It will take some time. And yes.....you will need to do it sober because the majority of the time you will spend on this earth takes place sober.

At least I hope :tongue2:


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
    #7977210 - 02/04/08 10:37 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I thought you all might be interested in this, if you haven't seen it before. It's an article by Scientific American on psychedelic healing.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=psychedelic-healing

I think it's actually a little light but thought it might be of interest, especially in terms of giving the current picture of psychedelic healing, rather than just the stories covering this matter from the 50s/60s etc etc :heart:


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Re: Can psychedlics heal mental problems/issues? [Re: rungold315]
    #7977402 - 02/04/08 11:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Psychedelics will not solve your problems in life. Believe me, I've tried. Everyone deals with sadness, depression, and anger. They fluctuate through life.

Try to get more sleep. Eat better foods. Get some exorcise. Do something creative with your free time. Read a good book. Live a more meaningful life. All these things have worked for me.

I used to trip every week, and it didn't do anything for me and my problems except fry my mind a little. It was awesome, don't get me wrong. But it didn't really help me all that much. Now I don't plan on tripping any more than once a month.


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