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Fruiting Chamber Question With Pics!
    #7975230 - 02/03/08 08:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm creating my fruiting chamber for my cakes and as I began drilling holes i thought the holes might be to large. Are these holes large enough to affect the humidity level or maybe i've drilled to many holes on the side in the pic? Ill be filling the chamber with 6 inches of perlite and put 10 cakes in it within a week.




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Re: Fruiting Chamber Question With Pics! [Re: truancyb0tt]
    #7975265 - 02/03/08 08:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No, your holes are fine, if you are just going to rely on them for the air exchange, thats a good ammount. Just be sure to prepare your perlite correctly. Also, it may not hurt to use a spray bottle with about 30% peroxide 70% distilled water to spray indirectly into the chamber for humidity. you are only shooting for about 75% range Relative Humidity when fruiting.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Question With Pics! [Re: Ryno]
    #7975484 - 02/03/08 09:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

how did you manage to crack your FC while drilling?


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Question With Pics! [Re: UCX_911]
    #7975492 - 02/03/08 09:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i dunno, the stupid plastic just cracked as i drilled. pretty annoying but i don't think its going to hurt anything :frown:


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Question With Pics! [Re: truancyb0tt]
    #7975505 - 02/03/08 09:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

if you have tried to drill hard plastic you will know why it breaks. i try to use something to back it like a piece of 2x4 to prevent the pressure form facilitating fracture


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Question With Pics! [Re: Ryno]
    #7975511 - 02/03/08 09:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Ryno said:
No, your holes are fine, if you are just going to rely on them for the air exchange, thats a good ammount. Just be sure to prepare your perlite correctly. Also, it may not hurt to use a spray bottle with about 30% peroxide 70% distilled water to spray indirectly into the chamber for humidity. you are only shooting for about 75% range Relative Humidity when fruiting.




That's a rather broad statement to make. Your target RH largely depends on what type of mushroom and what technique one is using. If you're fruiting cakes then I would shoot a little higher than 75%. 90% with good air exchange would be good for primordia formation and somewhere around 85% for cropping. This is assuming one is doing cakes.

As for the holes on the FC, they look ok. I would still fan and mist daily though.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Question With Pics! [Re: lovingtickels]
    #7975514 - 02/03/08 09:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'll be sure to use a 2x4 when drilling the rest of the holes. I plan on doing plenty of misting and FAE after I put in the cakes. I'm going to be fruiting 10 cakes of Mazatapec


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Question With Pics! [Re: truancyb0tt]
    #7975521 - 02/03/08 09:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

an idea - if you're going to be using perlite, to keep things neat and to keep perlite from falling out of the holes,

drill slightly smaller holes for the bottom half of your fc, including the bottom.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Question With Pics! *DELETED* [Re: Morchella83]
    #7975548 - 02/03/08 09:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Fruiting Chamber Question With Pics! [Re: lovingtickels]
    #7975666 - 02/03/08 10:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah drill smaller holes or use a board too back up the plastic so it can be drilled. Large holes can be drilled with hole saws. Using a drill press helps.

Also if you decide to make another FC later then you should practice drilling on the FC you have or a dollar shoe box or something of relative thickness to the FC's wall thickness.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Question With Pics! [Re: Ryno]
    #7976593 - 02/04/08 05:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Ryno said:
No, your holes are fine, if you are just going to rely on them for the air exchange, thats a good ammount. Just be sure to prepare your perlite correctly. Also, it may not hurt to use a spray bottle with about 30% peroxide 70% distilled water to spray indirectly into the chamber for humidity. you are only shooting for about 75% range Relative Humidity when fruiting.




You need to do some reading.

Theres no need to use h202 in your fruiting chamber, it will hurt mushroom mycelium more than it will other contaminants. h202 should only be used to fight cobweb.

Also, you will want your Rh to be 95%-99%. The higher the better. Those holes look just a little bit big. You will find out soon, i would get the perlite in and test if for a few days before birthing the cakes. If you have problems maintaining humidity cover some holes up.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Question With Pics! [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7976785 - 02/04/08 08:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

to prevent your hard plastic from cracking when drilling holes you need to put less pressure on the drill. just set the drill on the plastic surface and only give it a small amount of pressure when drilling, it looks like you are pressing down too hard when making the hole, thus creating the cracks. ive had that problem before as well, ended up busting up a fairly nice terrarium.

sorry, i know that wasnt your question, just thought i would chime in


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Question With Pics! [Re: Morchella83]
    #7977042 - 02/04/08 09:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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If you're fruiting cakes then I would shoot a little higher than 75%. 90% with good air exchange would be good for primordia formation and somewhere around 85% for cropping. This is assuming one is doing cakes.

As for the holes on the FC, they look ok. I would still fan and mist daily though.




Incorrect.

Cakes should be kept at close to 100% humidity as possible.

I don't know how to say if those holes are too big or not without something to judge them by. 1/4" works great for the holes. It's important to note that a 1/2" hole is 4 times as large as a 1/4" hole, so if they're too big, you can easily dry out the air within.

Make sure holes are on all six sides, as this is important for proper air exchange and humidity. If you have trouble maintaining humidity, simply run a coolmist humidifier in the room your fruiting chamber is located.
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