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OfflineFarFromHere
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Opium Poppies
    #7973809 - 02/03/08 03:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I don't know much about opium poppies but I'm interested...

What would be the best way to organically consume opium poppies?


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7973918 - 02/03/08 04:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

eating it
or tea
IMO


smoking wastes a bit


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7973934 - 02/03/08 04:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

tea, start with two nice sized pods for your first try.


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: ApacheShaman]
    #7974303 - 02/03/08 05:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm... ok.

You can smoke raw opium staight from the pod tho, right?

If I use the slice and scrap tek?

I don't need to process it anymore I can just smoke it right?


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7974420 - 02/03/08 06:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Are you growing poppies behind the NBC studios teotz?
Does Chris Hansen know about this?


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: Chemy]
    #7974470 - 02/03/08 06:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hey you actually called me Teotz'!

Thanks!


Now back to topic...

Once I scrap my pods...

I can smoked the raw opium, right?


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7974533 - 02/03/08 06:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yes but it will be very wastefull for one and it wont be as potent as cooked opium.


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: ApacheShaman]
    #7974547 - 02/03/08 06:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Can't you ask an intern at NBC to do your research for you?


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7974593 - 02/03/08 06:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

FarFromHere said:
Are you a complete dick?



Whos the one that tried to set up people on this board?

I'll give you a big hint, not me.


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: Chemy]
    #7974728 - 02/03/08 07:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Please do not post in my thread, unless you have something worthwhile to say.

I don't need this bullshit, stop trying to start drama.


Back on Topic...

So cooked opium is better?


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7974738 - 02/03/08 07:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Would exposing shroomerites identities on national tv cause drama in their real lives?

Look in a mirror if you want to see who wants drama


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: Chemy]
    #7974743 - 02/03/08 07:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Are you kidding?


:beatadeadhorse:


Get out of my thread!


Do you really think I want that?

I've been here forever...talking about fucking cactus...

I like cactus.

Go away.


Will somebody talk about poppies, please? :mad2:




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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7974762 - 02/03/08 07:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

How much did NBC pay you?


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: Chemy]
    #7974782 - 02/03/08 07:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

See what your trying to do is...is make people actually think I work for NBC or I'm a cop or some shit...

I hope y'all are not that stupid.

This guy is a troll and is trying to get me to retaliate, so he can get me banned or something.

I'm not sure what his plan is...

Mods please close this thread.

Chemy has fucked it up.

Why don't you email kevin whatever and ask him if he even remembers who I am?

I don't have his email so you'll need to find it yourself.



Royer, chemy broke the new rule about bumping, please ban him, just like you banned me, each time I did it.

He also is off topic, trolling and attempting to start drama.

All I wanted to do was find a little bit out about opium poppies...

I really wanted to know the safest most natural way to consume opium...

Thanks Chemy! :beatadeadhorse:




It's because i talked to this guy from NBC...

But its not like I told him anything.

I only got in trouble after i told everybody about him!!!

Should I have keep it to myself that this guy was doing a report on the shroomery?!?


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7974982 - 02/03/08 08:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

why dont you go read erowid. thats where everyone else learned it.


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: ApacheShaman]
    #7975130 - 02/03/08 08:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ya ok, sure.

Just let this thread die.


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7975351 - 02/03/08 09:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No, the thread lives!!


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: Herbus]
    #7975710 - 02/03/08 10:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Die thread, die!

:beatadeadhorse:


Where are the mods?!


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7976247 - 02/04/08 12:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Anyways making tea is imo by far the most efficient and natural way you can go about this.  Just crush up pods and steep the material.  I like to crush up a dose and run it through the coffee machine a few times.  Then afterwards you can just keep brewing more using that same material until the brewed water starts losing pigment...easy to judge that way and also easy to titrate the dose.  There's a lot of different chemicals in an opium pod as opposed to a pill with hydrocodone, oxycodone, morphine or whatever and I feel like it's easier to get to a nauseous area with pods....but they're so nice :smile:


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: PoC]
    #7976258 - 02/04/08 12:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'd rather smoke it.

Is there an easy, all natural way to get smokable opium...

Why can't you smoke it raw?

What does cooking it do?


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7976270 - 02/04/08 12:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yes its cleaner and more pure. You lose weight but it gains value. It is the perferd method of smoking.

Btw, can anyone link me to a indoor poppy grow tek? + nutrients.


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: Cubie]
    #7976288 - 02/04/08 01:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm ok.

I've heard opium taste wonderful, is this true?

Will it still taste good if I "Cook" it?

What does "Cooking" it do?

Remove water?

How do I cook it?

Anybody got a link or sometihng?


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7976309 - 02/04/08 01:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Search 'poppy seed to opium'
Cooking it gets the water out and makes it so you can strain the opium. Making it cleaner and more pure.
Id say it would taste better with impuritys out.


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: Cubie]
    #7976376 - 02/04/08 02:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ok, thanks.

So cooking is just applying heat? Nothing fancy, right?


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7976409 - 02/04/08 02:37 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If you will direct your attention for a second you will see a stickied thread towards the top of the ethno garden about poppies. It's there for a reason.


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: plainswalker]
    #7976438 - 02/04/08 03:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Before opium is smoked, it is usually 'cooked'. Uncooked opium contains moisture, as well as soil, leaves, twigs, and other impurities which diminish the quality of the final product.

The raw opium collected from the opium poppy pods is placed in an open cooking pot of boiling water where the sticky globs of opium alkaloids quickly dissolve. Soil, twigs, plant scrapings, etc., remain undissolved. The solution is then strained through cheesecloth to remove these impurities. The clear brown liquid that remains is opium in solution, sometimes called 'liquid opium'. This liquid is then re-heated over a low flame until the water is driven off into the air as steam leaving a thick dark brown paste. This paste is called 'prepared', 'cooked', or 'smoking' opium. It is dried in the sun until it has a putty-like consistency. The net weight of the cooked opium is generally only eighty percent that of the original raw opium. Thus, cooked opium is more pure than its original, raw form, and has a higher monetary value.

Cooked opium is suitable for smoking or eating by opium users. Traditionally there is only one group of opium poppy farmers, the Hmong, who prefer not to cook their opium before smoking. Most other ethnic groups, including Chinese opium addicts, prefer smoking cooked opium. Raw or cooked opium contains more than thirty-five different alkaloids, including morphine, which accounts for approximately ten percent of the total raw opium weight.






Hmm...What's raw opium like?

Anybody ever not cook it?


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Re: Opium Poppies [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7976570 - 02/04/08 05:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

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