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Which do you find easier to control?
#7973607 - 02/03/08 03:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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On a comparable trip level between LSD and mushrooms, which do you personally find easier to "control"?
I feel acid is much easier to control and more linear. A good dose of mushrooms is much more difficult to control at times, its like going into a rollercoaster blindfolded.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Seraph in Blue]
#7973616 - 02/03/08 03:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm opposite. LSD is much harder to control for me than mushrooms.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Robo]
#7973647 - 02/03/08 03:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Omni said: I'm opposite. LSD is much harder to control for me than mushrooms.
Odd. It may just me me, but I always have these spit seconds of intense despair or distance from my own life which I snap out of, or vivid premonitions of horrible or hellishly unlikely situations on mushrooms, sometimes I get overtaken by guilt that I'm indulging in a taboo activity. That never ever ever happens to me on acid.
Yesterday I had a vivid premonition/vision involving me being burried in and suffocating in a pile of bloody human bones. These "teleportations to hell" only last a few seconds or a minute, but while being in them they can seem like an eternity. I always seem to gain insight from them and don't consider them to be overall negative.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Seraph in Blue]
#7973684 - 02/03/08 03:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think the real thing is dose. btw i was in super hell for like 8 hours in this world maybe more but how long it felt you just dont wanna ever know esspecailly just waiting for the sun to rise.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Seraph in Blue]
#7973694 - 02/03/08 03:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe its the fact that mushrooms are natural and LSD is a man-made chemical. Although I doubt that has anything to do with I'm just talking to talk I suppose...
Then again stuff like 2CB and 2CE are fairly lucid and clear-headed when taken in the right doses and they are synthetic also. Then again, most PEA's are fairly lucid and clear-headed in my experience anyhow compared to Tryptamines. I guess it really just depends on the person.
When it comes down to it I guess it's just the dosage in question as well as the individual taking the said substance
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: thedudenj]
#7973704 - 02/03/08 03:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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thedudenj said: i think the real thing is dose. btw i was in super hell for like 8 hours in this world maybe more but how long it felt you just dont wanna ever know esspecailly just waiting for the sun to rise.
Was that LSD or mushrooms?
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: thedudenj]
#7973705 - 02/03/08 03:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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thedudenj said: i think the real thing is dose.
What he said ^^
Plus the individual in question as well.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Robo]
#7974117 - 02/03/08 04:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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IME acid seems to do what it wants, but i have control over my thoughts, where as mushroom tends to control my thoughts a bit more.
Its personal really, i love acid, and i love mushrooms, but they are very different. One of my friends thinks mushrooms are alot easier to control than acid, where as i think the complete opposite.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: blacksun]
#7974146 - 02/03/08 05:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i feel very awkward around people on mushrooms while on acid i dont feel so odd acid is definitely more controllable for urs truly
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Coaster]
#7974169 - 02/03/08 05:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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mushrooms toss me in the backseat, and take me for a ride.
lsd is a more of a controlled trip for me. Seems i am able to steer a bit through the thought processes as opposed to our fungal friend.
both are superb though, and both have their use.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: enesi]
#7974177 - 02/03/08 05:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seems like I'm the only one that's opposite of the OP
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Robo]
#7974651 - 02/03/08 06:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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oh super hell was from fasting. hell hell was from a dose of "acid" tho most likely, that i didnt have much a problem with i was with good people and we all just freaked for many hours with heavy psytrance stomp. I have to respect the guy that gave it to much cause i questioned if would need more he said come find him if i did and all i could say when i found him was yes! thanks. but i think it was more so bad vibes that threw it all to hell. the super hell was cause some people threw heavy negitive vibes on me and i opened the portal and threw them in and watched them fall into super hell while they were on no drugs tho they did smoke pot to try to ease it and the other did heroin with no avail only super hell. its crazy how powerful heavy mediative trance can be speard and passed on to others
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: thedudenj]
#7974686 - 02/03/08 06:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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a gram of mushrooms is very controlled.. it's when you get on up to 2 grams plus that keeping an eye on your bearings ( and doing this is no good because you have to let go anyhow ) is a good idea.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: future]
#7974791 - 02/03/08 07:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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2g of mushrooms is great. i have had one gym that was stronger a tiny one too!
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: thedudenj]
#7974804 - 02/03/08 07:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've never lost control of an acid trip, but pretty much any mushroom trip over 2.5g knocks my ass onto the floor and takes me on a journey whether I'm ready or not.
I think it's interesting that it's just the opposite for some. I wonder what it means.
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Tchan909 said: I've never lost control of an acid trip, but pretty much any mushroom trip over 2.5g knocks my ass onto the floor and takes me on a journey whether I'm ready or not.
I think it's interesting that it's just the opposite for some. I wonder what it means.
maybe he's left handed? lol
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: enesi]
#7974819 - 02/03/08 07:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Left-brained, perhaps?
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why not throw mescaline into the discussion as well? (ive only tried weak salvia and dmt doses so i dun have much experience)
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I've not tried mescaline and I'm guessing psilocybin and LSD are somewhat more commonly used around here...
Definitely gotta try mescaline soon, though.
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Well, if mescaline is throw in...I'm pretty sure the answers will be unanimous.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: wildchild68]
#7974889 - 02/03/08 07:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ya ive read mescaline is really mellow right?
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Robo]
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Psychedelic or not, mescaline kind of exists in a different class than psilocybin and LSD simply by virtue of it being a phenethylamine rather than a tryptamine. It has huge active doses by comparison. I imagine its pharmacology is pretty different, even if it has very similar results.
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oh yeah its a great phen. but it can get really crazy. my friend was tripping on cactus with some people and they got lost in newark and witnessed a gang fight of a shit ton of people wearing gang colors, which i find funny cause it was like the colors someone would see in there head but acted out. strange shit. they were trying to get to QXTs and well im not down for that place, so i wasnt there for it
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: thedudenj]
#7976035 - 02/03/08 11:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mescaline is mellow, but has a spiritual, entheogenic feel. I guess it's like DMT light, though obviously a phen not a tryptamine. I've heard of some people having amazing experiences on mescaline, but horrible stomach problems.
Like I've said, for me acid is very easy to control and "steer". Most of the time acid is analytical and "cool" and deals more with science and the psyche for me. Mushrooms are much more profound and I find myself thinking about life, death, happiness, despair, guilt, eternity, ect alot more. Acid makes me want to know how the world and my inner world works and why it works that way, mushrooms make me question why we work at all and wonder what happens after this is all over, and sometimes that drives me nuts.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Robo]
#7976055 - 02/03/08 11:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Omni said: I'm opposite. LSD is much harder to control for me than mushrooms.
Oh yeah, me too...I don't know what it is, maybe I always dose wayy too much with acid...I'm sure I've topped the 500mcg mark...and then there's no stopping it from being a wild and insanely visual 15 hour ride, and I really can't do anything...can't even make a basketball into a hoop. Or cook myself food...
And then on LSD I always think I've died...and then I'm born again. Although I'm completely helpless to the drug since it's so powerful, that's the best part of acid...the rebirth, if you experience it...ahh, life changes after that, but it's good. Real good.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: tyler_0_durden]
#7976143 - 02/04/08 12:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Omni said: I'm opposite. LSD is much harder to control for me than mushrooms.
Oh yeah, me too...I don't know what it is, maybe I always dose wayy too much with acid...I'm sure I've topped the 500mcg mark...and then there's no stopping it from being a wild and insanely visual 15 hour ride, and I really can't do anything...can't even make a basketball into a hoop. Or cook myself food...
And then on LSD I always think I've died...and then I'm born again. Although I'm completely helpless to the drug since it's so powerful, that's the best part of acid...the rebirth, if you experience it...ahh, life changes after that, but it's good. Real good.
It's so hard to know how much you're getting with LSD though. Most blotters are somewhat standardized, but there are some pretty weak ones and some pretty monstrous hits out there. Not to mention the number of RC's being peddled as "acid" like DOC or DOB, what have you.
Mushrooms give me the most beautiful, pleasant visuals. But I came close to that once with a mega-dose of lsd and some good pure MDMA rolls (red transformers). 3-D storms of light and color materializing and swirling in front of my eyes. Good stuff.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Seraph in Blue]
#7976150 - 02/04/08 12:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Omni said: I'm opposite. LSD is much harder to control for me than mushrooms.
Oh yeah, me too...I don't know what it is, maybe I always dose wayy too much with acid...I'm sure I've topped the 500mcg mark...and then there's no stopping it from being a wild and insanely visual 15 hour ride, and I really can't do anything...can't even make a basketball into a hoop. Or cook myself food...
And then on LSD I always think I've died...and then I'm born again. Although I'm completely helpless to the drug since it's so powerful, that's the best part of acid...the rebirth, if you experience it...ahh, life changes after that, but it's good. Real good.
It's so hard to know how much you're getting with LSD though. Most blotters are somewhat standardized, but there are some pretty weak ones and some pretty monstrous hits out there. Not to mention the number of RC's being peddled as "acid" like DOC or DOB, what have you.
Its easy to tell LSD from RC's. If its bitter its a spitter.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: sui]
#7976156 - 02/04/08 12:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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mushrooms you are bette rof not contoling
acid makes me way too in control. like im able to do all these new things with my brain and i have absolutly no idea what i want to do
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: sui]
#7976474 - 02/04/08 03:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Omni said: I'm opposite. LSD is much harder to control for me than mushrooms.
Oh yeah, me too...I don't know what it is, maybe I always dose wayy too much with acid...I'm sure I've topped the 500mcg mark...and then there's no stopping it from being a wild and insanely visual 15 hour ride, and I really can't do anything...can't even make a basketball into a hoop. Or cook myself food...
And then on LSD I always think I've died...and then I'm born again. Although I'm completely helpless to the drug since it's so powerful, that's the best part of acid...the rebirth, if you experience it...ahh, life changes after that, but it's good. Real good.
It's so hard to know how much you're getting with LSD though. Most blotters are somewhat standardized, but there are some pretty weak ones and some pretty monstrous hits out there. Not to mention the number of RC's being peddled as "acid" like DOC or DOB, what have you.
Its easy to tell LSD from RC's. If its bitter its a spitter.
Oh yeah, way easy to tell. LSD shouldn't taste much like anything...and the high is easy to notice if you take a lot. The most noticible characteristics of the high are the insane shroom-like visuals but more insane, the lack of peripheral vision, the duration, and the complete loss of ego.
I've only done real LSD with a liquid dropper...five drops, and I really must've took too mcuh because it only took a half hour to come up, and an hour to be completely...and utterly, gone. Three hours into the trip I thought I was dying. By the fourth hour I thought i was just a spirit, I was long dead...it was messed up...but I was just tripping TOTAL BALLS in my room.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: civil twilight]
#7976569 - 02/04/08 05:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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acid + summertime = beautiful
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: sui]
#7976661 - 02/04/08 06:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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suimush said: Its easy to tell LSD from RC's. If its bitter its a spitter.
Hey, If I were to get DOC, DOM, DOB, etc. instead of LSD I wouldn't really be complaining too much
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Robo]
#7976704 - 02/04/08 07:12 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey, If I were to get DOC, DOM, DOB, etc. instead of LSD I wouldn't really be complaining too much
Yeah I would love to try those, but I would be pretty pissed if every time I tried to get acid it was an RC.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Robo]
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suimush said: Its easy to tell LSD from RC's. If its bitter its a spitter.
Hey, If I were to get DOC, DOM, DOB, etc. instead of LSD I wouldn't really be complaining too much
I would. I find LSD to be vastly superior. More open eye visuals, less twitchyness, body aches, cramps, etc. And besides, who wants to trip for 20 hrs anyways. Part of a good trip is being able to come back when you feel "homesick" if you will.
One of my best friends lost her boyfriend a few years back when he bought a $100 vial of DOC and thought it was bunk or very weak so he downed the entire thing. 4 hours later he walked into a busy highway and ended his life. I realize this is an isolated case and that wasn't the smartest/most responsible thing to do, but the fact that the incident hits so close to home makes me weary of RC's being touted at LSD.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Seraph in Blue]
#7977568 - 02/04/08 12:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah that kinda shit can happen even with lsd or alot of things
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: thedudenj]
#7977830 - 02/04/08 02:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I only have problems on any psychedelic when I try to exert some form of control.
Especially on mushrooms, I'm just helpless, the trip completely sucks you in.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: g00ru]
#7978111 - 02/04/08 03:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd much rather have LSD than any of the DOx series.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: wildchild68]
#7978249 - 02/04/08 04:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd love to try DOB. If, one of those times I got totally bunk blotter, I waited another hour and was suddenly hit by something with that kind of power, I would have been relieved.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: wildchild68]
#7978318 - 02/04/08 04:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I find acid way easier to control than mushrooms...Iv had many difficult shroom trips (Not bad trips)....and only 1 difficult acid trip...........LSD is more lucid feeling where shrooms are more confusing
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Phish20]
#7978731 - 02/04/08 05:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Phish20 said: I find acid way easier to control than mushrooms...Iv had many difficult shroom trips (Not bad trips)....and only 1 difficult acid trip...........LSD is more lucid feeling where shrooms are more confusing
What is the definition of a difficult trip as opposed to bad trip?
I don't think I've ever had a bad trip where I was having a horrible time the entire time or was scared or depressed, but it seems that every mushroom trip I take has its "difficult moments", usually at first, followed by tranqullity and euphoria.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Phish20]
#7978757 - 02/04/08 05:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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For me, mushrooms are more likely to be unexpectedly intense than LSD. Maybe that's partially attributable to the potency difference of individual shrooms. Maybe psilocin is especially sensitive to other chemical balances in the body. Something less obvious than the one-to-one correlation between DMT and MAOI's, but something that substantially affects the effects.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: enesi]
#7978916 - 02/04/08 05:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Acid is much MUCH easier to control for me.
The first time I took acid I was sitting on a couch alone, and I thought "Could you have a bad trip on this?" I kept trying to spook myself for kicks but nothing would work.
I tried shrooms a month later for the first time and thought "Could you have a-" ...and the shrooms answered my question
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Seraph in Blue]
#7979134 - 02/04/08 06:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seraph in Blue said: One of my best friends lost her boyfriend a few years back when he bought a $100 vial of DOC and thought it was bunk or very weak so he downed the entire thing. 4 hours later he walked into a busy highway and ended his life. I realize this is an isolated case and that wasn't the smartest/most responsible thing to do, but the fact that the incident hits so close to home makes me weary of RC's being touted at LSD.
Yeah for real, no offense man.....But if your friends boyfriend bought a vial of something and downed the whole thing without even thinking twice because he "thought it was bunk" he didn't sound too smart. LSD is way more potent then DOC anyway, down in ug, while the DOx's are in the 1,2,3mg range. Even if it was real LSD I could only imagine how intense it would be even if it hadn't been DOC. It was a poor choice either way. Both are potent psychedelics, but who's to say something bad wouldn't have happened had he downed multiple mg's of LSD? Think about it. I know it was only a hundred bucks but still....He should have tested it or something. Blaming DOC, a perfectly safe drug when used responsibly and with caution, for the death of your friends boyfriend isn't logical. May his soul rest in peace, but it didn't have to be that way. He didn't have to swallow a whole vile of an unknown substance...
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Robo]
#7979390 - 02/04/08 07:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seraph in Blue said: One of my best friends lost her boyfriend a few years back when he bought a $100 vial of DOC and thought it was bunk or very weak so he downed the entire thing. 4 hours later he walked into a busy highway and ended his life. I realize this is an isolated case and that wasn't the smartest/most responsible thing to do, but the fact that the incident hits so close to home makes me weary of RC's being touted at LSD.
Yeah for real, no offense man.....But if your friends boyfriend bought a vial of something and downed the whole thing without even thinking twice because he "thought it was bunk" he didn't sound too smart. LSD is way more potent then DOC anyway, down in ug, while the DOx's are in the 1,2,3mg range. Even if it was real LSD I could only imagine how intense it would be even if it hadn't been DOC. It was a poor choice either way. Both are potent psychedelics, but who's to say something bad wouldn't have happened had he downed multiple mg's of LSD? Think about it. I know it was only a hundred bucks but still....He should have tested it or something. Blaming DOC, a perfectly safe drug when used responsibly and with caution, for the death of your friends boyfriend isn't logical. May his soul rest in peace, but it didn't have to be that way. He didn't have to swallow a whole vile of an unknown substance...
No one is saying that it wasn't idiotic for him to do that. Even she agrees how unwise that was, but the fact that I see how it still affects her to this day, hits close to home. I'm not blaming DO* compounds, I'm blaming in part the ones who were passing it off as acid who must have known.
Also, Acid has a virtually impossible to reach LD50 in humans, even if he took many mg's of it, eventually the body would stop metabolizing it and as intense as it would have been for him, he probably would have survived the trip. Not so with the DO* compounds, their LD50's are much easier to attain and there have been a number of overdoses on them, particularly DOB. The DO's are therefore inherently not as safe and selling something to someone and passing it off as a safer chemical in my book is morally screwed.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Seraph in Blue]
#7979532 - 02/04/08 07:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok they are bastards for selling it. thats a given, but a whole vial come on now, while the dealer had a part in it. he didnt dump the shit in his mouth.
even if he took many mg's of it, eventually the body would stop metabolizing
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Seraph in Blue]
#7979610 - 02/04/08 07:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes, LSD is very hard to OD on, this is common knowledge. Yes, DOx compounds are easy to. But it doesn't even sound like he overdosed. You said he took the DOC then walked out into traffic, which ended his life.
Since we aren't talking about overdosing there is no reason to bring up "LD50" anywhere. Downing that much LSD (had it been LSD) might have had drastic effects as well. And as for your metabolizing argument, I wouldn't go so far as to say downing multiple milligrams of LSD would stop being intense at some point unless you yourself had downed that much LSD. Experience would be the key argument here, which none of us have in this particular scenario (mg's of LSD).
Also, yes the dealer who gave him that to begin with is low-life scum and I would get my revenge somehow. May your friends boyfriend rest in peace, and its a shame, but as we all seem to agree it was bad decision making to begin with.
I'm sorry though, that might be enough to make me think low and steer clear of RC's also. RIP
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: wildchild68]
#7979640 - 02/04/08 08:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I can eat five grams of mushrooms and be in complete control, but still trip very hard and have any amazing night. This was actually friday night .
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Robo]
#7981175 - 02/05/08 12:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Omni said: Yes, LSD is very hard to OD on, this is common knowledge. Yes, DOx compounds are easy to. But it doesn't even sound like he overdosed. You said he took the DOC then walked out into traffic, which ended his life.
Since we aren't talking about overdosing there is no reason to bring up "LD50" anywhere. Downing that much LSD (had it been LSD) might have had drastic effects as well. And as for your metabolizing argument, I wouldn't go so far as to say downing multiple milligrams of LSD would stop being intense at some point unless you yourself had downed that much LSD. Experience would be the key argument here, which none of us have in this particular scenario (mg's of LSD).
Also, yes the dealer who gave him that to begin with is low-life scum and I would get my revenge somehow. May your friends boyfriend rest in peace, and its a shame, but as we all seem to agree it was bad decision making to begin with.
I'm sorry though, that might be enough to make me think low and steer clear of RC's also. RIP
The reason I brought up the LD50 is not because of what happened to him, and yes, it very well may have happened on acid (though I believe what happened was because the delayed onset of the Do* as compared to acid, sublingually no less, fooled him into thinking it was inactive) It is because I believe it to be fundamentally wrong to mislead someone into buying and taking something more dangerous than what they think they're getting. It's pretty much a consensus in the pharmalogical community that LSD is safer than DO*'s or RC's in general.
I'm still a fan of 2C's, but the DO*'s really don't appeal to me at this point.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Seraph in Blue]
#12513088 - 05/05/10 08:17 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Personally when i trip on mushys i dont even feel the trip unless i smoke on them while im at 3.5g+ and im only 140 pounds. I agree with the total awkwardness in social situations and yea its definantly a passenger seat thing. Its kind of like you think something and you do it simultaneously, there's no thought about the consequences, positive or negative, you just react to get reactions. If that makes sense. Getting some freshly pressed tabs this weekend and am going to acid rip for my first time in my life. But back on the shrooms; I've had times where everyone's face at a party turned into the devil and they all seemed to be looking at me like i was doing something funny. Things like this can be infinitely overwhelming and I feel lucky to have not experienced a full fledged "journey to hell" quite yet. Shroom hallucinations can sometimes look more real than real life.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: SpiderWeB]
#12513689 - 05/05/10 09:41 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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have fun ripping acid
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: g00ru]
#12513828 - 05/05/10 10:03 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Seraph in Blue]
#12513845 - 05/05/10 10:06 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, i'm usually one to say that LSD is way more fun and care-free than mushrooms. But I don't know anymore...I'm starting to think that maybe I've just been having strong mushroom trips and weaker acid trips. Because I had a couple trips on bigger doses of LSD that totally blew my mind...and now that lazy, yawny, teary-eyed mushroom thing sounds kind of nice in comparison. Floatyness and those slow, soft visuals. LSD is out of this world...I think it only seems to easy to handle because its typically packaged in such low doses maybe. But who knows. Mushrooms have always been pretty weird...
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: blacksun]
#12513982 - 05/05/10 10:33 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Acid, for me, just makes reality more intense and my mind more clear, along with amphetamine-like stimulation and ultimate euphoria of rolls, hallucinations being add-ons to reality rather than full on warping of reality.
Shrooms are a major depressant and they make everything fuzzy, everything flows together sloppily and is prone to changing shapes or spontaneously patterning.
Shrooms are much harder to control, but usually lead to a much more emotional experience for me, while acid is the epiphany inducing stimulant.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: enesi]
#12514072 - 05/05/10 10:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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enesi said: mushrooms toss me in the backseat, and take me for a ride.
lsd is a more of a controlled trip for me. Seems i am able to steer a bit through the thought processes as opposed to our fungal friend.
both are superb though, and both have their use.
this is the first post that i can relate to and go figure, i relate completely ass-backwards to you enesi
to me when i'm tripping on shrooms i feel more sociable to an extent while lsd seems to make me more prone to bad entities and vulnerable to bad people in general
in the same light however, i absolutely LOVE both acid and sacred mushrooms they both give such an enchanting feeling of inner harmony with such outstretched vibes resonating throughout the cosmos that its hard for a person like me to get on here and read such things like "control" and "easy" and relate them to acid or mushroom experiences
hey we're all a little different but the main objective is that we're all the same linking these two realities transcends into our everyday human experience that we call Life
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