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Zinglons Acolyte
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: wildchild68]
#7974889 - 02/03/08 07:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ya ive read mescaline is really mellow right?
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Mescaline is the ultimate psychedelic PEA
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Robo]
#7974910 - 02/03/08 07:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Psychedelic or not, mescaline kind of exists in a different class than psilocybin and LSD simply by virtue of it being a phenethylamine rather than a tryptamine. It has huge active doses by comparison. I imagine its pharmacology is pretty different, even if it has very similar results.
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oh yeah its a great phen. but it can get really crazy. my friend was tripping on cactus with some people and they got lost in newark and witnessed a gang fight of a shit ton of people wearing gang colors, which i find funny cause it was like the colors someone would see in there head but acted out. strange shit. they were trying to get to QXTs and well im not down for that place, so i wasnt there for it
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: thedudenj]
#7976035 - 02/03/08 11:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mescaline is mellow, but has a spiritual, entheogenic feel. I guess it's like DMT light, though obviously a phen not a tryptamine. I've heard of some people having amazing experiences on mescaline, but horrible stomach problems.
Like I've said, for me acid is very easy to control and "steer". Most of the time acid is analytical and "cool" and deals more with science and the psyche for me. Mushrooms are much more profound and I find myself thinking about life, death, happiness, despair, guilt, eternity, ect alot more. Acid makes me want to know how the world and my inner world works and why it works that way, mushrooms make me question why we work at all and wonder what happens after this is all over, and sometimes that drives me nuts.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Robo]
#7976055 - 02/03/08 11:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Omni said: I'm opposite. LSD is much harder to control for me than mushrooms.
Oh yeah, me too...I don't know what it is, maybe I always dose wayy too much with acid...I'm sure I've topped the 500mcg mark...and then there's no stopping it from being a wild and insanely visual 15 hour ride, and I really can't do anything...can't even make a basketball into a hoop. Or cook myself food...
And then on LSD I always think I've died...and then I'm born again. Although I'm completely helpless to the drug since it's so powerful, that's the best part of acid...the rebirth, if you experience it...ahh, life changes after that, but it's good. Real good.
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Edited by tyler_0_durden (02/03/08 11:59 PM)
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: tyler_0_durden]
#7976143 - 02/04/08 12:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Omni said: I'm opposite. LSD is much harder to control for me than mushrooms.
Oh yeah, me too...I don't know what it is, maybe I always dose wayy too much with acid...I'm sure I've topped the 500mcg mark...and then there's no stopping it from being a wild and insanely visual 15 hour ride, and I really can't do anything...can't even make a basketball into a hoop. Or cook myself food...
And then on LSD I always think I've died...and then I'm born again. Although I'm completely helpless to the drug since it's so powerful, that's the best part of acid...the rebirth, if you experience it...ahh, life changes after that, but it's good. Real good.
It's so hard to know how much you're getting with LSD though. Most blotters are somewhat standardized, but there are some pretty weak ones and some pretty monstrous hits out there. Not to mention the number of RC's being peddled as "acid" like DOC or DOB, what have you.
Mushrooms give me the most beautiful, pleasant visuals. But I came close to that once with a mega-dose of lsd and some good pure MDMA rolls (red transformers). 3-D storms of light and color materializing and swirling in front of my eyes. Good stuff.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Seraph in Blue]
#7976150 - 02/04/08 12:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Omni said: I'm opposite. LSD is much harder to control for me than mushrooms.
Oh yeah, me too...I don't know what it is, maybe I always dose wayy too much with acid...I'm sure I've topped the 500mcg mark...and then there's no stopping it from being a wild and insanely visual 15 hour ride, and I really can't do anything...can't even make a basketball into a hoop. Or cook myself food...
And then on LSD I always think I've died...and then I'm born again. Although I'm completely helpless to the drug since it's so powerful, that's the best part of acid...the rebirth, if you experience it...ahh, life changes after that, but it's good. Real good.
It's so hard to know how much you're getting with LSD though. Most blotters are somewhat standardized, but there are some pretty weak ones and some pretty monstrous hits out there. Not to mention the number of RC's being peddled as "acid" like DOC or DOB, what have you.
Its easy to tell LSD from RC's. If its bitter its a spitter.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: sui]
#7976156 - 02/04/08 12:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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mushrooms you are bette rof not contoling
acid makes me way too in control. like im able to do all these new things with my brain and i have absolutly no idea what i want to do
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: sui]
#7976474 - 02/04/08 03:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Omni said: I'm opposite. LSD is much harder to control for me than mushrooms.
Oh yeah, me too...I don't know what it is, maybe I always dose wayy too much with acid...I'm sure I've topped the 500mcg mark...and then there's no stopping it from being a wild and insanely visual 15 hour ride, and I really can't do anything...can't even make a basketball into a hoop. Or cook myself food...
And then on LSD I always think I've died...and then I'm born again. Although I'm completely helpless to the drug since it's so powerful, that's the best part of acid...the rebirth, if you experience it...ahh, life changes after that, but it's good. Real good.
It's so hard to know how much you're getting with LSD though. Most blotters are somewhat standardized, but there are some pretty weak ones and some pretty monstrous hits out there. Not to mention the number of RC's being peddled as "acid" like DOC or DOB, what have you.
Its easy to tell LSD from RC's. If its bitter its a spitter.
Oh yeah, way easy to tell. LSD shouldn't taste much like anything...and the high is easy to notice if you take a lot. The most noticible characteristics of the high are the insane shroom-like visuals but more insane, the lack of peripheral vision, the duration, and the complete loss of ego.
I've only done real LSD with a liquid dropper...five drops, and I really must've took too mcuh because it only took a half hour to come up, and an hour to be completely...and utterly, gone. Three hours into the trip I thought I was dying. By the fourth hour I thought i was just a spirit, I was long dead...it was messed up...but I was just tripping TOTAL BALLS in my room.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? *DELETED* [Re: wildchild68]
#7976560 - 02/04/08 05:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: civil twilight]
#7976569 - 02/04/08 05:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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acid + summertime = beautiful
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Robo
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: sui]
#7976661 - 02/04/08 06:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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suimush said: Its easy to tell LSD from RC's. If its bitter its a spitter.
Hey, If I were to get DOC, DOM, DOB, etc. instead of LSD I wouldn't really be complaining too much
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Robo]
#7976704 - 02/04/08 07:12 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey, If I were to get DOC, DOM, DOB, etc. instead of LSD I wouldn't really be complaining too much
Yeah I would love to try those, but I would be pretty pissed if every time I tried to get acid it was an RC.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Robo]
#7977391 - 02/04/08 11:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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suimush said: Its easy to tell LSD from RC's. If its bitter its a spitter.
Hey, If I were to get DOC, DOM, DOB, etc. instead of LSD I wouldn't really be complaining too much
I would. I find LSD to be vastly superior. More open eye visuals, less twitchyness, body aches, cramps, etc. And besides, who wants to trip for 20 hrs anyways. Part of a good trip is being able to come back when you feel "homesick" if you will.
One of my best friends lost her boyfriend a few years back when he bought a $100 vial of DOC and thought it was bunk or very weak so he downed the entire thing. 4 hours later he walked into a busy highway and ended his life. I realize this is an isolated case and that wasn't the smartest/most responsible thing to do, but the fact that the incident hits so close to home makes me weary of RC's being touted at LSD.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: Seraph in Blue]
#7977568 - 02/04/08 12:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah that kinda shit can happen even with lsd or alot of things
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: thedudenj]
#7977830 - 02/04/08 02:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I only have problems on any psychedelic when I try to exert some form of control.
Especially on mushrooms, I'm just helpless, the trip completely sucks you in.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: g00ru]
#7978111 - 02/04/08 03:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd much rather have LSD than any of the DOx series.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: wildchild68]
#7978249 - 02/04/08 04:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd love to try DOB. If, one of those times I got totally bunk blotter, I waited another hour and was suddenly hit by something with that kind of power, I would have been relieved.
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Re: Which do you find easier to control? [Re: wildchild68]
#7978318 - 02/04/08 04:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I find acid way easier to control than mushrooms...Iv had many difficult shroom trips (Not bad trips)....and only 1 difficult acid trip...........LSD is more lucid feeling where shrooms are more confusing
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