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Invisibledumbfounded1600
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Substrate is 90% of potency. Enviroment is 9.99%. Strain is 0.01%.
    #7960153 - 01/31/08 01:18 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Is This true?


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Re: Substrate is 90% of potency. Environment is 9.99%. Strain is 0.01%. [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7960167 - 01/31/08 01:23 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

No, genetics are about 90% if anything, sub and environ 10%, IMHO.


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Re: Substrate is 90% of potency. Environment is 9.99%. Strain is 0.01%. [Re: Day Tripper]
    #7960258 - 01/31/08 01:45 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

id say theyre all equal factors


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Re: Substrate is 90% of potency. Environment is 9.99%. Strain is 0.01%. [Re: hazey]
    #7960556 - 01/31/08 02:56 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

bump...I know its not but I want some shoomerites advice..


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Re: Substrate is 90% of potency. Environment is 9.99%. Strain is 0.01%. [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7960843 - 01/31/08 04:08 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Starts with strain, then a substrate can maximize the strain's potential, environment factors into yield.


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Re: Substrate is 90% of potency. Environment is 9.99%. Strain is 0.01%. [Re: zathan]
    #7960869 - 01/31/08 04:17 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Its the same with anything. You can have a strain of really potent mushrooms, or pot, or a breed of dog thats really healthy, but if you feed them crap or they don't get enough nutrients, they won't fill out to the potential dictated by their genes. Genetics kinds of builds the framework for what something is capable of, but you gotta fill that framework out with TLC.
But there is no 90% this, 5% that, 4.5% other, etc. Nothings that simple.


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Re: Substrate is 90% of potency. Environment is 9.99%. Strain is 0.01%. [Re: DragonChaser]
    #7960956 - 01/31/08 04:35 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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DragonChaser said:
Its the same with anything.  You can have a strain of really potent mushrooms, or pot, or a breed of dog thats really healthy, but if you feed them crap or they don't get enough nutrients, they won't fill out to the potential dictated by their genes.  Genetics kinds of builds the framework for what something is capable of, but you gotta fill that framework out with TLC.
But there is no 90% this, 5% that, 4.5% other, etc.  Nothings that simple.




well shrooms are kinda differnt if you feed them crap they will be happy :grin:... but really i would say genetics are the most of it . shrooms(cubes) dont need much to grow as long as they are delt with right.


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Re: Substrate is 90% of potency. Environment is 9.99%. Strain is 0.01%. [Re: bw86]
    #7961120 - 01/31/08 05:11 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

That's precisely it. RR and others have been saying forever that genetics make up almost all of potency. It seems that many people will do multispore grows on some particular substrate, then get less potent results and blame the substrate rather than the particular spores that germinated.


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Re: Substrate is 90% of potency. Environment is 9.99%. Strain is 0.01%. [Re: asknoquestions]
    #7961435 - 01/31/08 06:24 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

The genetics will give you the MAXIMUM possible of everything (potency, fruiting, amount of pins, etc). That is your genotype.

Then, environment (including substrate) will modify the expression of those genes and give you what you actually see, the phenotype. If the conditions are ideal, you will get the best possible results, but always up to a limit marked by the genetics.

Notice how people are taller nowadays that 60 years back? It isn't that our genes (genotype) has changed significantly in the last 60 years, it is just that the environment has improved dramatically (better feeding as children, less illnesses) and has allowed us to achieve our maximum potential.


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Re: Substrate is 90% of potency. Environment is 9.99%. Strain is 0.01%. [Re: Nibin]
    #7961463 - 01/31/08 06:31 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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Re: Substrate is 90% of potency. Environment is 9.99%. Strain is 0.01%. [Re: Wolfgang]
    #7967344 - 02/02/08 12:33 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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Re: Substrate is 90% of potency. Environment is 9.99%. Strain is 0.01%. [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7967419 - 02/02/08 01:14 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

i guess you should have your answer by now , but to say everything again , genetics are everything. I ve read people having kickass potencies with pf tek which is assumed to be less nutritious , and read people who barely had level 1 trip with their hpoo or other bulk substrates . When you are working with multispore inoculations it is a gamble you can have potent or not so potent shrooms . so if your multispore inoculation is 4/5 potent if you grow it on pf tek you may have 3.7 potency and if you grow it on hpoo you may have 4 potency no more , but if you have 1/5 potent multispore inoculation whatever you grow them on you ll at maximum get 1/5 potent shrooms , these numbers ive just typed are for examples they are not right .
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Re: Substrate is 90% of potency. Environment is 9.99%. Strain is 0.01%. [Re: whereismymind]
    #7970723 - 02/02/08 09:22 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

So its genetic and whoever wrote that should die? Or is it adding more to the alkoloids...eaither way it could be getetic


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Re: Substrate is 90% of potency. Environment is 9.99%. Strain is 0.01%. [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7973588 - 02/03/08 03:02 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Im guessing the guy should die


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