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P.Menace
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Re: Dispel All Myths: Noob Reading Required [Re: lovingtickels]
#7975478 - 02/03/08 09:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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BRF cakes CAN and DO produce LARGE fruits Ive seen 75grams wet Personally off of double stacked 1/2 pint cakes.


 see that big one in the middle? most recent large mushie 55 grams wet. Double stacked 1/2 pint BRF cakes
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zathan
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Re: Dispel All Myths: Noob Reading Required [Re: P.Menace]
#7975800 - 02/03/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
P.Menace said: BRF cakes CAN and DO produce LARGE fruits Ive seen 75grams wet
Depends on one's definition of large I suppose. Here are some of my typical "medium to large" fruits.
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lovingtickels
wit a engineringdegre wo neds tono how 2 spel


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Re: Dispel All Myths: Noob Reading Required [Re: zathan]
#7975906 - 02/03/08 11:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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typical m to l? do tell whats the strain thats l to me
-------------------- I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from. - Al Franken
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P.Menace
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Re: Dispel All Myths: Noob Reading Required [Re: lovingtickels]
#7975971 - 02/03/08 11:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah I'd call mine Typical Medium Sized... For Treasure Coast on BRF cakes. lets see how they turn out on a casing of Hpoo spawned with WBS, I will know later this week
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MiSTRFiNGA
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Re: Dispel All Myths: Noob Reading Required [Re: P.Menace]
#7976022 - 02/03/08 11:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Your opinions on large fruits and large yields are based on your own personal opinions. Not facts. Your frutis are large to your cake size maybe, but in the world of mushrooms they are average. Also your yield is large to you because the cake is covered, but the quantity is not alot. If you have never grown before I can see how you think this. If you ever grew bulk you wouldnt. Its like saying Ma & Pa's shop is busy and makes alot of money. But then there is WalMart, and that IS busy and IS alot of money compared to WalMart. It aint possible. Bulk is better no matter how you try to put it.
I dont understand how people are always trying to put down old thoughts. YES you can do it with less light, or diffrent lights. Will it be as successful, no. The "rules" dont say use distilled water, its reccommended because you will get more in return for this input then if you use toilet water, which also works but not as well. It would be more beneficial to you the posters to say "Hey look what I did and it worked!" then to say that somthing is a myth, or lie, or un-necessary. Remember we all came here to learn, and then to trash the teaching of those before us is disrespectful. We need to share and learn together, not bash or trash!
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Eat The Rich
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Re: Dispel All Myths: Noob Reading Required [Re: lovingtickels]
#7976118 - 02/04/08 12:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i wish I knew the proper reference to the study, but somone successfully grew p. cubensis by exposing it to less that one one hundredth of a second of light a day. I can't, however, testify to the quality of the harvest. The water on the surface of the cake should, and by the date's cited, has, slowed pinning. A lot of these assumptions aren't black and white rules, but many people, are wretchedly paranoid of them. As if to say a string of blue LED lights will work, whereas ambient lighting will not. The Mycellium needs, to further produce life, create spores, and to do this, the mushrooms are created. It will find a way, if possible to produce fruit, however, the affluence of these productions are up to so many factors.
The one thing I would like to back the thread poster on, is this idea that the PF style BRF cakes will not produce large fruits. I heartily disagree to this notion in its entirety. I don't know the the record for mushroom production from half pint BRF cakes, or half pint any substrate cakes, however, I know that if you can produce 8 ounces of fruit, from 16 jars, made into 4 jar casings, then all is quite well. I know not either the record for the largest cube cultivated, but I have myself grown caps 10 inches in diameter from BRF, actually, less than a year ago. I don't know why any cultivator would smite the productivity of BRF.
But all be well, friends. We seem often lost in a world only so little to our appetitie for understanding. These, the species we have come to love and study, seem to surprise me more and more every day, as everyone finds for themselves the greatest way to cultivate. It seems more an issue, in the end, to study how it is that the mushroom does will itself to be an offering unto some few deserving humans. And cusping on a topic I know to better be placed within the spiritual forums, I digress. Be well, all.
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P.Menace
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Re: Dispel All Myths: Noob Reading Required [Re: Eat The Rich]
#7976232 - 02/04/08 12:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Growing Mushrooms is Like Being a Doctor. IMO... Its ALL practice, BASED on science- Through Opinions and Experiences are we going to LEARN anything. One guy says "hey I grew Mushrooms with NO light or Misting" and another says he did it all wrong... Did He really? or did He LEARN something? Is it FACT or Opinion? Correct answers... Yes/No, Yes, Opinion. There are many reasons why he MAY have did it wrong based on Lighting,Rh,Temp,Misting. BUT Cubensis can and will adapt to any given environment, within a relative range, also some Cubensis have been known to grow out in the middle of Sun beaten pastures, and in the deepest darkest caves in the world where there is no light. There are still many Unknown factors as to exactally Why/How mycelium Produces fruit. Fact: It does. Question. Why? Answer. To further reproduce by spreading spores Question. How? Answer. IDK
Learn from others Opinions Learn from others Experiences Learn from Science Learn from Yourself If You have to... Learn from the School of Hard Knocks
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BlargIAmDead
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Re: Dispel All Myths: Noob Reading Required [Re: P.Menace]
#7979081 - 02/04/08 06:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Don't be hating RR :P. It was just the first mushroom to open all the way up. I'm printing all my caps and I WAS going to support FSR or give them away to those deserving but if you're going to be a butt about it...;). And I am proud of my shitty harvest. Very proud indeed.
Sorry this turned into such a much disputed topic. Wasn't trying to spread disinformation but from what I have read it was that ambient sunlight was ABSOLUTELY needed as a pinning trigger. I went ahead and modified the first post. Apparently I just need to keep reading. And I am learning.
About colonization time, they spent their entire life in my cozy closet at 75-80 degrees and they ARE 1/2 pints so I'll say I'm happy with it. And if you knock that then you're just knocking your own room temp advice :P. Granted lots more things come into play such as I have some particularly damp jars just finishing colonizing now.
And just to prove that I'm not an utter failure and to boost my flagging morale from the constant barrage upon my growing abilities and mental capacities here's pics of my FC with my current first flush.
The two cakes at the top and the one in the middle on the left got stuck in the FC later than the two on the bottom and one on the right.
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You can see in the pic below how the mushroom has burrowed it's way into the perlite. Very weird .
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And because it's cute and to show the love me:
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