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What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping?
    #7972685 - 02/03/08 12:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Title says it all. We've got some great MDMA pills lying around and we're planning our first hippyflip in a couple of days.

We're in the Netherlands so we can get our shrooms from the shop and I was wondering if anyone has any experience as to which strain is best compatible with E?
We can choose from: Thai, Mexican, Columbian, Equadorian, Hawaiian, McKennaii, though they may not all be available.

Also I'm wondering how big our dose of shrooms should be and any other advice is very welcome.
Thankibus muchibus.


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: JackoNeill]
    #7972746 - 02/03/08 12:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

dude, its all going to be a psilocybin + mdma combo, no matter what strain you choose. just pick by personal preference.

personally, i would take em with thai or hawaiian, but thats just me.


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #7972753 - 02/03/08 12:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I thought shrooms were now illegal in the Netherlands. Is that not enforced?


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: g00ru]
    #7973171 - 02/03/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I thought shrooms were now illegal in the Netherlands. Is that not enforced?




No it's still being debated in the chamber of representatives. It's not even sure they will become illegal at all.


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #7973218 - 02/03/08 01:58 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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ShroomDoom said:
dude, its all going to be a psilocybin + mdma combo, no matter what strain you choose. just pick by personal preference.

personally, i would take em with thai or hawaiian, but thats just me.




Not true. If you're talking strains of cubensis maybe yes, but different species have different ratios of alkaloids that combine to form an imterplay with the psilocybin. I would recommend him trying Pan Cyans, since they have a good amount of seratonin which would probably play well with the MDMA. If he can find the Inocybe Arubigenscens (sp?) the alkaloid unique to that species releases oxytocin in the brain, causing more 3D visuals (like found in a large dose MDA trip) and empathy.That's my take on his question.


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: JackoNeill]
    #7973222 - 02/03/08 01:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I wanted to do this before I tried mushrooms..now I can't see why anyone would want to pollute such a rich experience as mushrooms with man made speed...to each his own


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: JackoNeill]
    #7973228 - 02/03/08 02:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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JackoNeill said:
Title says it all. We've got some great MDMA pills lying around and we're planning our first hippyflip in a couple of days.

We're in the Netherlands so we can get our shrooms from the shop and I was wondering if anyone has any experience as to which strain is best compatible with E?
We can choose from: Thai, Mexican, Columbian, Equadorian, Hawaiian, McKennaii, though they may not all be available.

Also I'm wondering how big our dose of shrooms should be and any other advice is very welcome.
Thankibus muchibus.




Hawaiian if it's just cube strain. If they offer up different species like Hawaiian Pan Cyans (blue meanies down here) go for those. And if you're lucky enough to find Inocybe Arubigescense up for sale, go for those. They seem to produce only happy trips and more 3-d holographic visuals.


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: Bend the Bong]
    #7973500 - 02/03/08 02:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I wanted to do this before I tried mushrooms..now I can't see why anyone would want to pollute such a rich experience as mushrooms with man made speed...to each his own




If you're putting MDMA on the same level as speed you've obviously been taking it in the wrong setting or been sold crap E.


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: Bend the Bong]
    #7973537 - 02/03/08 02:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I wanted to do this before I tried mushrooms..now I can't see why anyone would want to pollute such a rich experience as mushrooms with man made speed...to each his own




While MDMA isn't completely natural, it is still semi-synthesized using an alkaloid found in nature from the oil of Sassafrass root, much like LSD is semi-synthesized from ergot or heroin from Opium poppy. MDMA is still a psychedelic and more similar to psilocybin than you may expect.

The fact that rolls are commonly adultered with fully-synthetics and non-psychedelic garbage is only a detreiment to the producers and dealers and the users unwittingly taking "ket-beans" or "speedy-beans". MDMA itself is a marvelous entheogen at high doses and has some interesting psychedelic effects for me.


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: JackoNeill]
    #7973549 - 02/03/08 02:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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JackoNeill said:
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Bend the Bong said:
I wanted to do this before I tried mushrooms..now I can't see why anyone would want to pollute such a rich experience as mushrooms with man made speed...to each his own




If you're putting MDMA on the same level as speed you've obviously been taking it in the wrong setting or been sold crap E.




True. If you are sure you're getting pure MDMA, or better yet, MDA, the psychedelic aspect and entheogenic effects are great, often times bordering on spiritual with me.


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: JackoNeill]
    #7973605 - 02/03/08 03:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Do a Thai + MDMA hippyflip for sure man, even though a cube is essentially a cube that's what appeals to me most out of the list you gave.

Followed by Hawaiian.


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: Robo]
    #7973728 - 02/03/08 03:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

To clarify; yes they usually only sell cubes (and truffles too...)


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: JackoNeill]
    #7973758 - 02/03/08 03:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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JackoNeill said:
To clarify; yes they usually only sell cubes (and truffles too...)




That's odd. I'm sure if you looked you can find other species. I had a friend who samples 6 different species, including pan cyans and psilocybe azurescens. He had fried amanita chips and said he had unique visions of mushrooms and elves smoking pipes.


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: Seraph in Blue]
    #7974019 - 02/03/08 04:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hawaiians are what smart shops call pan cyans.

the other country named ones i think are all cubes.


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: Littleman]
    #7974164 - 02/03/08 05:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

good e makes you stimulated but at the same time makes you yawn and want to lie down and just melt all over the place....but a lot of the time you aren't getting that pure compound...they use these pills primarily at raves and clubs so it doesn't surprise me they want to stay up dancing with the speed laced in..instead of the spiritual experience mdma can induce...

I have had good mdma but have stopped seeking it out due to being disappointed 9/10 times


they are special each in their own right...shouldn't need to mix


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: Littleman]
    #7976717 - 02/04/08 07:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Littleman said:
hawaiians are what smart shops call pan cyans.

the other country named ones i think are all cubes.




Think you're right yes. I'm gonna go with the copelandis cyanensis then on your recommendations. Probably won't take a full dose cause I don't wanna blot out the amazing E we have. We took 1,5 pills from the same batch a couple of months ago and it was one of the best drug experiences of my life. Lots of closed eye visuals near the end too.


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: JackoNeill]
    #7977344 - 02/04/08 11:20 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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JackoNeill said:
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Littleman said:
hawaiians are what smart shops call pan cyans.

the other country named ones i think are all cubes.




Think you're right yes. I'm gonna go with the copelandis cyanensis then on your recommendations. Probably won't take a full dose cause I don't wanna blot out the amazing E we have. We took 1,5 pills from the same batch a couple of months ago and it was one of the best drug experiences of my life. Lots of closed eye visuals near the end too.




Good choice on the shrooms. As many good experiences I've had with cubes/e and e/lsd combos, I still find Copelandia cyanescens just by themselves to be an even better experience, I've never done e and copes in conjunction, but I'm dying to try it. Let me know how it goes.

You had CEV's with just E? You sure it was MDMA and not MDA?


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Re: What shroom strain is best for hippyflipping? [Re: Seraph in Blue]
    #7977541 - 02/04/08 12:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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f he can find the Inocybe Arubigenscens (sp?) the alkaloid unique to that species releases oxytocin in the brain, causing more 3D visuals (like found in a large dose MDA trip) and empathy.That's my take on his question.





Aha, interesting!
Guess you mean Inocybe aeruginascens, which does contain "bigger" amounts of Psilocybin and Baeocystin, as well as a little psilocin, but compared to other psychoactive mushrooms, this one one of the rather "light" species. It's quiet a sensation for a mushroom of this genus to contain that much psychoactive compounds while almost a complete lack of muskarin i.e. muscimol, though.
The most interesting part of this mushroom is probably the aeruginascin, which indeed is believed to cause euphoria. It's a indole, that was exclusively found in this mushroom.
Did a little of reading and this fella actually seems to be a nice guy.
very interesting stuff to read :wink:


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