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OfflineAmity
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plz help me id this one
    #7972406 - 02/03/08 10:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)



i've read the rules but i don't know much about how to describe the mushroom, i think the picture is enough..
anyway maybe the only thing that not so clear in the pic is that the mushroom is very short..

thanks!


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: Amity]
    #7972591 - 02/03/08 11:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Probably an Agaricus. Impossible to confirm or be more detailed without more info. In addition to the rules, check out the sticky post that tells you how to describe a mushroom, you'll find some useful info there. Also at mushroomexpert.com


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: Amity]
    #7972601 - 02/03/08 11:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

spore print?  That's one thing you could have done.  Maybe explain what it's growing out of. I can tell you it's not active.  Won't make you trip sack.  Could be lots of things.
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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: landsnorkler]
    #7972892 - 02/03/08 12:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hmm i don't know exactly what is "score print", i'm just a simple user hehe...
well anyway if it's not active then i guess i'll just move on and search for other mushrooms.. thanks =]


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: Amity]
    #7973257 - 02/03/08 02:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

does it bruise? and its most defintely not active. it would help if you would describe where you are and where you found it, like in a shit field or ten steps from your back door or in your friends dirty crevices in his bathroom etc etc etc etc etc


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: snoot]
    #7973768 - 02/03/08 03:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

meadow mushroom, delicious. enjoy.


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: Evets]
    #7973869 - 02/03/08 03:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Evets said:
meadow mushroom, delicious. enjoy.




You don't know that. Terrible advice. Don't eat those.


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: landsnorkler]
    #7973903 - 02/03/08 04:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah I do, meadow mushroom. dont' waste it.:crazy2:


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: Evets]
    #7973906 - 02/03/08 04:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'd look for some bruising first.


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: snoot]
    #7973939 - 02/03/08 04:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Send them to Evets so he can eat em.

Please explain what makes you so sure those are "meadow mushrooms."


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: Evets]
    #7974000 - 02/03/08 04:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Evets said:
yeah I do, meadow mushroom. dont' waste it.:crazy2:




Evets,

You are not on the trusted identifiers list for this forum. And your screen name is not recognized by any of us either.

Your "Meadow Mushroom" (Agaricus campestris) ID is possibly wrong. Which is understandable, yet you hinted that they were OK to consume..twice

There are easily over 300 species of Agaricus that grow wild on this planet, a good number of them are poisonous, and most of them are difficult to identify (especially from just a few photographs).

This is a verbal warning not to provide people with potentially harmful information at this forum. If you do it again you will be banned from the hunting forum, for a year maybe.


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: landsnorkler]
    #7974002 - 02/03/08 04:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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landsnorkler said:
Send them to Evets so he can eat em. 

Please explain what makes you so sure those are "meadow mushrooms."




for sure lol, they look yummy but hey so does A. virosa :evil: dont eat thoose, if you looking for actives move on, heres a link to some pictures of psychoactives, but please dont think there ok to eat if you find something that looks like the picture.

http://www.shroomery.org/9462/Psychoactive-Species


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: BEEP]
    #7974030 - 02/03/08 04:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

however, that would make a damn good burger. :P personally I have a hard time distinguising the subtle differences in big agarics like that.


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: snoot]
    #7974402 - 02/03/08 06:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ggreatone ive been reading this forum for some time now. I can honestly say that all the people who post regularly.. your posts are are easily the least informative. It's as if you feel it's your right to post.
In your posts I see someone trying so hard to sound intelligent and educated. I see right through it. You don't touch the other frequent posters on here.
Maybe this opinion will get me banned. Truth hurts though.
And yes that is a meadow mushroom.


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: Evets]
    #7974422 - 02/03/08 06:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ok, no it will not get you banned

tell us why that is a Meadow Mushroom, and how you know for 100% certain. describe.


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: Evets]
    #7974484 - 02/03/08 06:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

and Evets, i have never claimed to be a know-it-all like others. in fact, i have stated before that i am relatively stupid. and I (unlike many other people) think that humans are stupid (your obnoxious replies just reinstates that theory of mine)

but, plop the two of us down somewhere in the world and see which one of us can find a psychoactive mushroom first. if it ws in florida, i would probably find one before anyone else i have ever met.

now you go and enlighten the forum with your rudeness, and tell us how you know for positive that those blurry pictures with zero description are Agaricus campestris.


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: Evets]
    #7974546 - 02/03/08 06:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

oh, and let us leave it up to the genius' like curecat and alan and toxic man to validate your description. so it should be a good challenge for you i think (it would probably be a good challenge for david aurora too considering no description), and i am personal messaging the original poster requesting that no extra information be given to you for this

just by strange chance, you are not that guy over at shroomtalk who eats those unidentified Agaricus mushrooms all the time are you? if so, use your stomach medicine again before you reply back to me


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7974581 - 02/03/08 06:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

this is any easy ID even with lack of info, maybe next time when it's a little harder it will be a challenge.


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7974633 - 02/03/08 06:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

a picture is never enouf , read the forun rules  carefully, we need more  information for a reason, the spore print is esencial .
the habitad, the color changes of the stem basically some agaricus bruise  yellow on stems . the smell , a foul chemical  smell, like bleach  is no  good,  other then that many agaricus are  edible, but as many point out  is wise to be sure specially when you are not familiar with the ones in your area, if is an agaricua, the spore print should  be brown ,if is a pluteus i doub it  shoul be pink of if is a volvariella  which  i doub more, my money is on agaricus , close  to a  campestris group where many more exist, but this is a wild  guess :grin: to do a spore print  place the cap  i a white paper and cover with a glass and in 4 hours or maybe 8 you will have a print of the spores in the paper, very easy  and esencial to id mushrooms..
all my best vibrations


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: Evets]
    #7974653 - 02/03/08 06:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hm, well, that is not good enough of a reason for me really.

maybe it is good enough for the others when they see the photos and read the info about the mushrooms provided.

maybe something like a full description of the habitat other then just grass and soil, location, more then one specimen to observe gill color as the mushroom matures, more then one specimen to see if any have a annulus, spore print, smell, dig the mushroom up to see it by chance has a volva, a note to know if any of the mushroom cap or stipe bruises yellow, a cross section on the stem to see if it is hollow, a microscope to compare the spores with A. solidipes, possibly see if the cap surface stains yellow with potassium hydroxide, and i would also do a radial section to get a better idea what the gill attachment is like on more then one specimen.

and i asked you once, are you that guy from the shroomtalk hunting forum who eats "any fuckin mushroom i think looks good"?


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7974837 - 02/03/08 07:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

alright man, you still havn't given us a single reason why you are 100% sure those are campestris. I would way rather trust someone like GG than you, mainly because he has common sense. Something your dumbfuck self obviously lacks. There is no way you can absolutely positively id those mushrooms from those photos. But, you're one of those guys who gets off on trying to sound smart. You're so fed up with your shitty existence that you give false advice to people, and can't even back it up. Why?


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: Amity]
    #7975334 - 02/03/08 09:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

Reason:
Wow. This thread is so off topic and full of flaming.

Amity - If you are only interested in actives, then you need to do a LOT more research if you want to actually find them. A LOT.
Otherwise you might post 100 ID requests and be disappointed every time.
If you want to know if they are active, just ask that, don't ask for an ID request. We can fairly easily tell you if your mushroom is active or not, but to identify it requires a lot more information.

Evets, I'm sorry, but there is simply not enough info, and those photos are not adequate to conclude that the mushroom is a "Meadow Mushroom", or that it is edible.

Personally, I'm not so sure it is even an Agaricus. Hebeloma, Agrocybe, and Cortinarius come to mind, looking at the rusty gills(rather than dark or chocolate brown as with Agaricus). Two of those genera contain many poisonous mushrooms.
Do NOT advise people to eat any mushrooms please. Not until you can accurately articulate why a specific mushroom is whatever species you claim it to be. Sorry we have to be harsh, but mushrooms can kill.

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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: landsnorkler]
    #7975422 - 02/03/08 09:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well i was just replying to landsnorkler and this got locked. i simply cannot control myself with this shroomtalker guy anymore and have to say something to snorkler:

thanks landsnorkler, i have admitted many times i am not some kind of genius identifier of mushrooms, but, the first time i remember finding mushrooms was in 1st grade. i would walk the girl next door to school with me every morning and we started noticing mushrooms in lawns, conocybes and panaeolina i assume. even at that age, for some reason just knew that you do not want to eat mushrooms that have not been correctly identified.

if this is the same guy from shroomtalk, well, he does not know that, trust me, i got into him with it and he started threatening me when i corrected him on what he was doing (eating unidentified mushrooms).

sure, the ones in the photograph may very well be campestris Meadow Mushrooms, but, you cannot really say that for certain with the info he provided (i can't at least). campestris does not even grow in florida i do not think so i have never had my hands on it before i do not think, just about a dozen other Agaricus mushroom species that i was unsure of at the time and never really even attempted to identify.

at shroomtalk he was showing photographs of what he claimed were A. bitorquis (which they did not look like it to me at all macroscopically) and then he said that they were Portobellas, when those mushrooms are actually A. brunnescens. So then he starts asking (as he is showing photographs of him cooking them and eating them) he asks "are these Agaricus augustus?". of course they are not. i know because that is probably the only wild Agaricus that i know how to identify without even using a book. so he eats the things anyways and gets vulgar and just basically being a complete moron if you ask me. he said "why don't you go to one of your fucking cautious mycology meetings before i fuck you up you piece of shit" ect. just going on and on because he did not have some medicine that he claimed makes him grumpy without it. so then i googled the medicine and it showed zero information about this stomach and intestinal medicine making people mean like that. so then he shows pictures of Coprinus atramentarius (poisonous with alcohol) and asks if they are C. comatus. of course not i said, then he just goes into a fit of rage again and eats the things anyways and shows photographs of him cooking the things. at shroomtalk this is acceptable, because they banned me for it and locked and deleted the topic saying "you are probably right but just let him do his own thing and eat what ever he wants". end of story. the guy pisses me off. :smile:


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Re: plz help me id this one [Re: Amity]
    #7975435 - 02/03/08 09:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

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ok Amity, thank you for sharing the photographs but we are going to lock this one again. my appologies your topic turned out this way. a good example of what happens if you do not supply us with adequate details about your finds you would like identified. make note of that for next time.. :smile:


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