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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7972678 - 02/03/08 12:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Bigger mushrooms is just water based.

Actually, verm can provide moisture to support a flush, but it doesn't fit the definition of 'casing', a term which is tossed around and abused fairly loosely. Furthermore, cobweb mold LOVES plain verm, which lacks the beneficial organisms to fight it off.
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I dont like it as many others because it damages the myceliul network when you pull a casing off


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7972684 - 02/03/08 12:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

160f


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7972691 - 02/03/08 12:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Like I said...I like to do 140-150F just to be on the safe side to make sure its not going into partial sterilization


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7972696 - 02/03/08 12:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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wow.. I didnt know that... I get killer flushes everytime, and I kill all the micro organisms... tttthhhhhhppppppp

sterilize it if you want to help protect against contams... you wont hurt anything... alot of cats sterilize their casing and its fine, so I dont know about the whole killing bacteria and whatnot thing that helps pinning.. all the casing layer is there for is to retain moisture... light, temp drop, fae, and humidity are pinning triggers.. THAT is what makes them pin...

if Im wrong, then correct me.. but even if I am, then the rules dont apply to me, because I always sterilize casings, and always get awesome pinsets... you dont sterilize BULK SUBS (ie poo, straw, coir) because of beneficial bacteria and micro organisms... you pasteurize those...




Thats how i feel. Ive always sterilized my casing layer because I thought it was common sense to do so. And as you seen with my pictures, my results were just fine :smirk:


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7972697 - 02/03/08 12:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

what are you talking about? its THE definition of a casing... a non nutritional layer that holds moisture and creates a microclimate for primordia formation... if anything, its is exactly what casing should be... people dont like it, because they prep it wrong, and either let it dry out, or the over mist and drown it... if its done right, it works great..

but yeah.. THE definition of a casing layer...


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7972701 - 02/03/08 12:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

gotcha.


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7972706 - 02/03/08 12:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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what are you talking about? its THE definition of a casing... a non nutritional layer that holds moisture and creates a microclimate for primordia formation... if anything, its is exactly what casing should be... people dont like it, because they prep it wrong, and either let it dry out, or the over mist and drown it... if its done right, it works great..

but yeah.. THE definition of a casing layer...




again you are right and dumbfounded is wrong.


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7972707 - 02/03/08 12:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

very true about the partial sterilization thing... I usually keep it at 160f, but that reading is coming from a thermometer that is in the bags I have the substrate in...


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7972712 - 02/03/08 12:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i know.... haha


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7972719 - 02/03/08 12:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

KillerPicklez...It's not even worth debating because I know im right...and there are even MODS here that will agree with me...They shit out dingleberrys like you lolololol...No offence...just my opinion


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7972725 - 02/03/08 12:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's ok though..my work here is done considering your too ignorant to listen to New/Better Ways...now I see why I don't come here as much as I have

Goodnight. :laugh:


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7972730 - 02/03/08 12:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Kp and Dj, I'll probably be Pm'n yu laer this week, hoep ya dont mind if I need more info.


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7972731 - 02/03/08 12:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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KillerPicklez...It's not even worth debating because I know im right...and there are even MODS here that will agree with me...They shit out dingleberrys like you lolololol...No offence...just my opinion




OK thats fine. then just stop spewing out false information and confusing this poor guy.

He has 2 people here who actually grow mushrooms giving him advice and then there is you who is just patching information from various threads and presenting it as if you actually know something.


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: shevanel]
    #7972739 - 02/03/08 12:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Kp and Dj, I'll probably be Pm'n yu laer this week, hoep ya dont mind if I need more info.




Not at all. We are all here to learn, it just sucks when you have someone who is giving you false information and causing confusion.


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #7972747 - 02/03/08 12:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

My Pc is cool, about to shake the seeds around in the jar's and store for cooling.


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: shevanel]
    #7972806 - 02/03/08 12:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah.. quit being a baby cause I am right... where is a mod at... lol

dont be mad... I wasnt trying to make you angry.. I just dont like it when cats spread information that may not be correct or even true... what you said was wrong... casing is exactly what I described it... too bad... haha

hit me up anytime you need help, and I will offer what I can... just remember to ask and read.. dont just listen to one person... when you take in advice from everyone (who knows what they are talking about) then you can come to your own conclusion on the best way to do whatever you wanted to know...


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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: shevanel]
    #7972837 - 02/03/08 12:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

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I figured something must be wrong when I go away for an hour and the thread gets 37 replies.

No way am I going to read all that shit, or I'd probably get out the ban stick.  Everybody needs to get a beer and get ready for the superbowl.  Knock off the pissing matches please. :laugh:
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