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KillerPicklez



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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: shevanel]
#7972171 - 02/03/08 09:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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shevanel said: What would you reccomend casing the wbs with?
I'm guessing coco coir.
If you want something easy, You can case with Miracle Grow: Moisture Control. 3$ a bag and easily sterilized.
50/50 Peat/Verm is also very good and what Ive been using most recently. but both MGMC and 50/50 have both given me better results than straight vermiculite casings.
Edited by KillerPicklez (02/03/08 10:20 AM)
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shevanel
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: shevanel]
#7972172 - 02/03/08 09:42 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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OkOk
I simmered the seed in a pot, rinsed, simmered, rinsed in cold water.
It's draining now.
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: KillerPicklez]
#7972177 - 02/03/08 09:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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very true
the 5050+ is just adding something to up the ph... thats all... like oyster shell or lime or something to that effect...
I like verm because there is no mixing or anything like that... after I hydrate and drain it, its at field capacity... then I just bake for 30 minutes at 350... never had a contam.. but I am also OCD about my cleanliness..
for sure.. try both, and see what works... verm works great for me... 5050 for others.... give it a shot... you need vermiculite for both anyway.. try one tray with it and one tray 5050 and do a side by side comparison... we llloooovveee those here, and you might help some noob out...
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shevanel
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: shevanel]
#7972179 - 02/03/08 09:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I figure by the time I PC these jars I'll have fgured out or decided which way I plan to go as far as using the (hopefully un-contaminated)colonized jars.
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: shevanel]
#7972181 - 02/03/08 09:44 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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shevanel said: I picked up some WBS from peningto at the WMart. Taking the steps now to prepare for use. I clearly now see what needs to be removed, all the actual seed sits at the bottom. I'll follow all instructions as listed on here and site.
Can I use the innc'd wbs to innoc other jars as in the rye seed method?
And does 100% of the sunflower seeds need tobe reoved, or just as much as posible?
i don't remove any of the SF seeds. and i never have any contams:)
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#7972183 - 02/03/08 09:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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let it drain for a while.. in like, 20 minutes, shake it up a bit so all the excess water gets out.. then let it sit a lil longer... the reason most fail at grain their first time is because too much water...
you do have a pressure cooker right? you wont get them sterile without one...
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: brainsOplenty]
#7972186 - 02/03/08 09:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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me neither most of the time. Sometimes i do and it doesn't make any difference at all. The real key is moisture, split grain and starches.
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shevanel
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: sandman420]
#7972194 - 02/03/08 09:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have a 27qt pressure cannr with psi gauge.
As soon as I'm confident thisis drained well, I'll fill 1 pint jars 1/2 way, and PC for 90 mins @ 15psi.
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: brainsOplenty]
#7972196 - 02/03/08 09:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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brainsOplenty said:
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shevanel said: I picked up some WBS from peningto at the WMart. Taking the steps now to prepare for use. I clearly now see what needs to be removed, all the actual seed sits at the bottom. I'll follow all instructions as listed on here and site.
Can I use the innc'd wbs to innoc other jars as in the rye seed method?
And does 100% of the sunflower seeds need tobe reoved, or just as much as posible?
i don't remove any of the SF seeds. and i never have any contams:)
The problem with SF seeds isnt that they cause contamination, its just that they dont colonize for whatever reason.
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: shevanel]
#7972201 - 02/03/08 09:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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shevanel said: I have a 27qt pressure cannr with psi gauge.
As soon as I'm confident thisis drained well, I'll fill 1 pint jars 1/2 way, and PC for 90 mins @ 15psi.
you can load them up a bit more if you like, like 3/4 full if you are limited on jars.
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: KillerPicklez]
#7972209 - 02/03/08 09:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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KillerPicklez said:
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brainsOplenty said:
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shevanel said: I picked up some WBS from peningto at the WMart. Taking the steps now to prepare for use. I clearly now see what needs to be removed, all the actual seed sits at the bottom. I'll follow all instructions as listed on here and site.
Can I use the innc'd wbs to innoc other jars as in the rye seed method?
And does 100% of the sunflower seeds need tobe reoved, or just as much as posible?
i don't remove any of the SF seeds. and i never have any contams:)
The problem with SF seeds isnt that they cause contamination, its just that they dont colonize for whatever reason.
i've never noticed any uncolonized SF seeds. alot of times it seems that they are the first to take off
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: brainsOplenty]
#7972216 - 02/03/08 09:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have 60 pint jars, but I only want to do a few in this "experimental" phase. Once I no longer feel lke a donkey and get more confidence I'l surely do a bigger batch.
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: shevanel]
#7972224 - 02/03/08 10:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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shevanel said: What would you reccomend casing the wbs with?
I'm guessing coco coir.

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AMU Q&A thread.
Edited by The shroomy 1 (02/03/08 10:01 AM)
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: The shroomy 1]
#7972238 - 02/03/08 10:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The shroomy 1 said:
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shevanel said: What would you reccomend casing the wbs with?
I'm guessing coco coir.

50/50 peat/verm SUCKA
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shevanel
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: brainsOplenty]
#7972269 - 02/03/08 10:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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yea i posted that LATE, the answer was up in t thread but I was muti-tasking.
PC Time...
Edited by shevanel (02/03/08 10:25 AM)
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shevanel
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: shevanel]
#7972287 - 02/03/08 10:22 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I did 6 jars.
3/4 full, 2 coffee filters, poly/cap, ring snug. in that order
Amazing how much wasted seed I have left, probably enough for 5 more jars, the seed expaned some.
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shevanel
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: shevanel]
#7972300 - 02/03/08 10:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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oh and not to mention, foilx2
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shevanel
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: shevanel]
#7972346 - 02/03/08 10:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If these jars colinize right, I'll do the 50/50 tek. As these do their thing I'll do my homework on the 50/50 procedure.
Thanks for all the help with the seed.
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: shevanel]
#7972353 - 02/03/08 10:41 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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shevanel said: If these jars colinize right, I'll do the 50/50 tek. As these do their thing I'll do my homework on the 50/50 procedure.
Thanks for all the help with the seed.
Its just 50% Vermiculite/ 50% Peat Moss.
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shevanel
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Re: Is this particular WBS acceptable? [Re: KillerPicklez]
#7972384 - 02/03/08 10:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I understand, but for someone who has never done a casing before I'll need to read a bit to understand it all.
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