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Is your kid doing drugs?
#7971841 - 02/03/08 05:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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LANCASTER COUNTY, Pa - Many teenagers have messy rooms. What some parents don't know is that those messy rooms might camouflage the clues that can indicate their sons or daughters are using drugs or drinking alcohol.
Searching through those rooms is a parent's responsibility, say some experts. "It might seem like an invasion of privacy, but it's something you have to do if you are suspicious," says Clarence Watson, a health educator from the Susan P. Byrnes Health Education Center in York.
Watson and fellow health educator Emmy Sasala teamed for a Lancaster County Prevention Forum conference, "Drugs 101: What Parents Need to Know." The program was held Jan. 14 at the Best Western Eden Resort Inn and Suites, and presented by the Council on Drug & Alcohol Abuse.
Using a simulated teen room, which was actually a lot neater than those in many homes, Watson and Sasala left dozens of clues that parents can easily overlook, or misconstrue as being harmless.
A large flat children's storybook, for example, might seem like a teen's attempt to hang onto childhood. It could, in fact, be used to cut and roll marijuana joints. A squashed, empty soda can might be doubling as a marijuana pipe.
The same goes for a cardboard toilet-paper roll. It's not just messiness; it's about what seems out-of-place in a bedroom. That cardboard roll might also be serving as a makeshift marijuana pipe.
Parents who find cans of whipped cream might wonder if their teens are making ice cream sundaes in their bedrooms; it's possible the young people are inhaling the fumes from the cans and getting high.
Teens might use cigarettes or flavored cigars and re-fill the papers with marijuana. It's also possible that a yellow highlighter used to mark books is being used as a pipe.
"And here you're thinking he's being so diligent doing his homework," says Watson.
He and Sasala offered many other clues for watchful parents, such as eye drops that often indicate marijuana use; sticker books used for holding Ecstasy; and lots of lollipops and water bottles that are sometimes used by Ecstasy users to quell the urge to chew and bite down.
"There are also a lot of gadgets that teens use that seem like the normal things," said Sasala, demonstrating a lipstick and a flashlight keychain, each of which can serve as a pipe.
Watson and Sasala added that nearly all the items in their demo bedroom came from the Internet. They just searched for items, ordered then online and got them delivered right to their homes.
Similarly, teens "can also order prescription drugs online, anything they want, no doctor or prescription necessary," noted Sasala.
Some teens attend what are called "pharming" or "pharm" parties. They have nothing to do with the Future Farmers of America. At one of these parties, each teen brings prescription pills from home. The pills are placed in a bowl and teens at the party reach in and grab a handful. Then they take them.
"They don't know what they are. They just wait to see what happens," added Watson.
The effects can be dire if they take several stimulants, several depressants or a dangerous combination. And they get the drugs right out of their parents' medicine cabinets. Sometimes they even come from the family pet's prescription.
Using skits and honest discussion, Watson and Sasala helped their adult students begin to understand drug users' tricks of the trade. Everything from unusual behavior to a lack of hygiene can be clues to drug use, whether it's using inhalants, marijuana, prescription drugs, alcohol, Ecstasy, cocaine, methamphetamine or extremely dangerous heroin.
"The first time a person uses heroin they are addicted," Watson told the concerned parents.
And the scary news is that the heroin on the current drug market might be spiked with more dangerous substances and is much stronger than ever.
Some teens might try it once, overdose and die. Others resort to robbery and criminal behavior to get money to support their expensive habits.
Parents need to be aware of the signs of heroin use, such as a disheveled appearance, insomnia and nodding out. Moms and dads might overhear words such as smack, mud, sugar, black tar and junk; these are terms that refer to heroin.
The main lesson of Drugs 101 was that parents need to pay attention and be alert to obvious and not-so-obvious signs.
"You see a Bob Marley T-shirt or a shirt with a marijuana leaf and that's a dead giveaway," said Watson, adding that a popular T-shirt that says "Just Say N2O" might seem like it's carrying a "Just say no to drugs" message. "What it really means is nitrous oxide, an inhalant sometimes known as laughing gas."
The program was presented by the Council on Drug & Alcohol Abuse to help parents and professionals learn about new approaches to alcohol, tobacco and other drug prevention, as well as current trends among youth and adolescents.
"I hope that Drugs 101 helped parents gain a better awareness of the youth drug culture," Sasala said.
"Awareness is key to prevention."
http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/215961
Gotta love the heroin remarks.
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note the pencil can and will also be used to stab you, the moral parents, when your deranged child is high on marijuana
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: impgl]
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the funny shit, is that this is the type of shit my mom listens to and believes.
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Was this sponsored by D.A.R.E.?
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: impgl]
#7971988 - 02/03/08 07:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shit I just found a toilet roll in my daughters room.
I kicked her out and told the little ho to defend for herself.
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: Ego Death]
#7972029 - 02/03/08 08:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Teens might use cigarettes or flavored cigars and re-fill the papers with marijuana."
Wouldn't the parents be concerned if they found cigarettes and cigars in their child's room anyway?
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: Ego Death]
#7972033 - 02/03/08 08:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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A large flat childrens book? for rolling joints. so that being said anything large and flat is suspicious. oh shit
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: Ego Death]
#7972042 - 02/03/08 08:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would know if my kids were on drugs.
Where do you think they'd get them? I'm not letting them deal with shifty dealers, that's dangerous.
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Quote:
MayorMcCheese said: LANCASTER COUNTY, Pa - Many teenagers have messy rooms. What some parents don't know is that those messy rooms might camouflage the clues that can indicate their sons or daughters are using drugs or drinking alcohol.
Searching through those rooms is a parent's responsibility, say some experts. "It might seem like an invasion of privacy, but it's something you have to do if you are suspicious," says Clarence Watson, a health educator from the Susan P. Byrnes Health Education Center in York.
Um, yeah it is Mr. Clarence, who knows nothing about drugs! Thanks for making all parents paranoid.
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A large flat children's storybook, for example, might seem like a teen's attempt to hang onto childhood. It could, in fact, be used to cut and roll marijuana joints. A squashed, empty soda can might be doubling as a marijuana pipe.
A large children's book...a SIGN for MARIJUANA!!!! Seriously, who uses an empty soda can ever (I guess kids might)...and then saves it in their room.
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Teens might use cigarettes or flavored cigars and re-fill the papers with marijuana.
I would be more pissed that if I thought the kid was using tobacco...
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Some teens attend what are called "pharming" or "pharm" parties. They have nothing to do with the Future Farmers of America. At one of these parties, each teen brings prescription pills from home. The pills are placed in a bowl and teens at the party reach in and grab a handful. Then they take them.
Here is one scary thing that I being slightly older (25) am not 100% sure about...but about 99% sure that kids don't actually have these pharming parties right? That has got to be an urban legend! You would have to be literally insane to just dump random unknown pills in a bowl and eat a handful. I mean you would probably end up dieing of tylenol poisoning or something. Please confirm this isn't true someone that is younger...I don't believe it, but with all the news reports of it, kids might start doing what they see and heard on the news, which is just another example of how the news influences kids to do dumb things.
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"The first time a person uses heroin they are addicted," Watson told the concerned parents.
Not in my experience...its too boring for most I would guess...though no one gets addicted without a first time...
Poor parents of Lancaster...they are gonna all be freaked out and paranoid that their kids areon drugs.
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: weephar]
#7972089 - 02/03/08 08:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Im 18 and have never heard of Pharming, sounds like something they made up to cause more hysteria.
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I'm 20 and have used virtually all the pharms, mainly the opiates though, and all my friends were right along with me getting high, hanging out and the like, but i never just took all my pills and mixed them in with everyone elses. Probably cause without me they wouldn't have been able to get the plls in the first place. I'm not about to throw 10 oxycontin pills in bowl for my friends when I can charge them 20-50 for 1 pill!!!
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: dill705]
#7972153 - 02/03/08 09:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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whew, i just came home from a pharm party. wtf you guys talkin about? you dont pharm party?
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: impgl]
#7972230 - 02/03/08 10:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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this is just a way to make people more paranoid. If kids are going to do drugs there going to do em, there is no point in making there parents involved.
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? *DELETED* [Re: biggysmall]
#7972272 - 02/03/08 10:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: Chemy]
#7972445 - 02/03/08 11:09 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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highlighters to make pipes... brings back old memories
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: xpl0de]
#7972513 - 02/03/08 11:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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WARNINGZ! IF YER CHILD HAS BOOKS AND DRINKS WATER HE OR SHE IS A CRIMINAAAAAAAALL!!!!oneone11
EDIT: I reread it and found this Quote:
Watson and Sasala added that nearly all the items in their demo bedroom came from the Internet. They just searched for items, ordered then online and got them delivered right to their homes.
....I don't really know what to say. So they're shocked that they can order books and pens online?
"You see a Bob Marley shirt and that's a dead giveaway" way to be prejudice you fucking asshole. FACT: I know numerous people who like Bob Marley who don't smoke, why, idk cuz they like his music or something.
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Drugz killed my father and raped my mother.
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: funnybunny]
#7972638 - 02/03/08 12:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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the way this was put together, im thinking a kid wrote this.
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This made me lol more than once.
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This article is pretty funny. It also has an oddly timeless quality, like with a few minor changes it could have been written in 1937, 1947 or any other year.
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is it me or have we been hearing about pa more in the news here. i live in pgh and have noticed a SHIT LOAD more cops out patroling and what not in the last month or so, its weird. anyways it seems like pa is starting too pick on there citizens more now or something.
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When ever I become a parent I would NEVER look through my kids room.
As long as there doing fairly good in there schooling its not a huge deal what there doing on weekends to me.
I would rather they say. Hey dad Im going to try these things so I know what they could be getting into.
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Quote:
MayorMcCheese said: Searching through those rooms is a parent's responsibility, say some experts. "It might seem like an invasion of privacy, but it's something you have to do if you are suspicious," says Clarence Watson, a health educator from the Susan P. Byrnes Health Education Center in York.
Yeah, it might seem like an invasion of privacy, but actually... Oh wait, no, that IS an invasion of privacy. 
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justthatguy07 said: Im 18 and have never heard of Pharming, sounds like something they made up to cause more hysteria.
Yeah me too. Same with those "abortion pill orgies" I keep hearing about. Why do they need to make up horrible myths about what teenagers are doing? It seems to me that most teenagers these days are pretty cool--from what I've read hard drug use is down, teen pregnancy rates are down, community volunteer work is up, etc.
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I find it the pinnacle of ignorance and hypocrisy that the first people to condemn heroin as deadly and addictive after just one use are also the first to beg for more morphine after a bad car accident or during chemo. I would love to be the one to tell them that they are chemically identical once they've entered the brain while they're in the throes of push-button narcotic euphoria in their hospital beds. Do you think they'd be scared shitless of the prospect of being addicted to the morphine after their recovery?
I would be concerned if my kid was taking heroin, but that's because of the lack of information and misinformation potentiated by groups like this and the health risks involved with intervenous use, not because it's addictive after FIRST time use.
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I guess these guys are just doing their jobs. You know, America and many other countries revolve around an income, so people pretty much would do anything for money (Write up bullshit articles and release them, do studies against drugs because they know many people will look up to them for the fact that so many people think all drugs are bad, blah blah).
At the same time, I also think these articles are aimed at those people who don't really go on the internet like us and join up with sites like shroomery, weedtalk, erowid, ect... to find more about the drugs they are using. They are aimed at those teens who just want to try drugs a few times and get over it. If they get caught by their parents, thats probably when they will stop, but most of us here are smart enough to get away with anything from our parents because 'we know better'...
Hope that made sense, hehe
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The first time you use heroin, youre addicted. LOL.
And pharming parties? What the fuck!?
If any kids do actually do pharming parties, maybe it's a positive thing, you know, use it as natural selection, survival of the fittest, maybe thin out the idiot population a bit.
Who just eats pills? I mean, fuck, there's testing kits for X, and there's pharmer.org for pharms, that way you know if it's ok.
Fucking idiot kids.
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parents that snoop through their kids' things really piss me off. their "duty" is to teach their kids what they feel is important, not to keep them shaded from reality and spy on them to make sure they aren't doing drugs. but i'm sure everyone here already knows that. so basically this reply is pointless. but i'm going to post it, anyway.
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toilet paper in my room is from me wacking off in front of my computer. i need it to clean up
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: Groomies]
#7975608 - 02/03/08 10:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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To me the the funniest part was how they were amazed that you can buy books in the internet.
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: Groomies]
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: nk pakelika]
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I typed out a derisive comment against the article and actually got a curious response from some lady... Maybe some good can come of such bad press if it can arouse discussion in people open minded enough to listen...
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"How to be a paranoid parent and make your kids hate you 101"
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I was going to say the same thing, I don't smoke and I like and listen to Bob Marley. these people are so stupid with some of the stuff they say.
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Nothing like a little suspicion and paranoia to help out a parent-child relationship.
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Re: Is your kid doing drugs? [Re: Chemy]
#8026602 - 02/15/08 10:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Chemy said:
We must ban bowls so they will not entice teens to throw trail mix parties anymore.
I'll second that
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