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Azurescens A Few Questions.?
    #7971184 - 02/02/08 11:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ok my FOAF needs some answers....

1. Has spawn Rye Grass Seed of Azurescens.
2. Boiled chips for 20-30 minutes on the first day
3. Soaked the HICKORY chips in water for 3 days.

These were new hickory chips used for smoking stuff in. Anyways, hes wondering when is a good time to PC and spawn?


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7971195 - 02/02/08 11:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

pc what??? Are you going to smoke some ribs???


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7971200 - 02/02/08 11:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ribs should be slow cooked instead of being pc'ed or boiled first. Real bbq'ers will laugh at you if you tell them that you pc'ed your ribs first. It is second rate


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7971207 - 02/02/08 11:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Rib Rubs and Sauces
It is a real shame that I have to mention this... NEVER PRE-BOIL RIBS. Boiling will make the ribs tender but they will be short a whole lot of flavor and it will require more barbecue sauce than you can imagine to make them even begin to taste decent.


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7971209 - 02/02/08 11:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Did you not read my fucking topic....Azurescens...


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7971212 - 02/02/08 11:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hungry... Ribs and azures would hit the spot right bout now.

:laugh: ftw!


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7971220 - 02/02/08 11:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah i did. I wondered what they have to do with hicory,pc,boiling. So i thought you meant ribs???

So what are we talking about here? Ribs or mushrooms? Azurescens to be exact.
Because the last thing that you would want to do is use hicory for azures and let alone pc the chips.
You can see how one might think you were talking about smoking some meat


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7971226 - 02/02/08 11:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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tahoe said:
ribs should be slow cooked instead of being pc'ed or boiled first. Real bbq'ers will laugh at you if you tell them that you pc'ed your ribs first. It is second rate




:lol:


I am now hungry. Fridge scavenge time.


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7971228 - 02/02/08 11:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

why would meat be brought up in mushroom cultivation anyways....YES YOU CAN USE HICKORY...IT LOVES HARDWOODS


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7971233 - 02/02/08 11:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

sounds great. Do not pc it. Just boil it for a few mins. let it cool in the water. Drain the excess water. Add the spawn. Keep in tub. Turn every week. Place outside, water when hot, pick mushrooms in fall


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Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7971241 - 02/02/08 11:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

if ya wanna do it right ya gotta pull the membrane off the underside of the rib then ya got a piece of heaven


go pig-sicle's ...............beef to mooooooooooooooo

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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: smily]
    #7971590 - 02/03/08 01:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Are they very good ?


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: Agjoe]
    #7971651 - 02/03/08 01:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ribs or shrooms

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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: smily]
    #7972245 - 02/03/08 10:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Anyone Else with actual information thats not fuckn stupid?


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7972284 - 02/03/08 10:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i think your question was answered early.

I just double checked, i guess hickor will be okay. How much are you paying for it???
Get this stuff, it comes in three colors. it is 5 bucks for a big bag and works great
http://www.scotts.com/index.cfm/event/ProductGuide.product/documentId/7c16bee18f4276b2673c22dc961a7348


here are some pictures of the wood chips in action. Just boil them if you are worried. If they are going outside right away then you d not need to boil. Just spread a light layer on the ground and cover with 2 inches of chips. Water the chips



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Teh=The
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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7972412 - 02/03/08 10:59 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry I left something out...im going to use it as spawn...like PC the woodchips and put my wbs spawn in the other jars so ic an have a large spawn collection....then my FOAF will do the outside thing...so should he pc?


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7972473 - 02/03/08 11:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

for get the jars and pc'ing the wood chips.Trust me, I know what I am talking about.


You should do this and just expand until ready. The spawn will colonize fresh chips really fast if held indoors and in a tub like a fc without holes. Do not add too many chips each time. Maybe a 4:1 ratio. 4 cups of chips per 1 cup of seed. Once colonized you can expand it again at the same ratio.

So lets say those 4 cups of chips are fully colonized by the 1 cup of seed. Now yo uhave 5 cups of spawn which you cna add 20 cups of new chips.

Once you have a good amount you just build you bed. I put some high quality soil down first. I used kellogs growmulch. It has not peat, it is basically wood mulch but very fine. It will drain and the mycelium will colonize it also.
So just put your fully coloniuzed chips/seed down in a very thin layer. I use grain at a 1-2 kernel per square inch. Now add some new wood chips like the ones above at 1-2 inches deep. Do not go too deep becasue the co2 will build up and sufficate the mycelium.
Now just water the patch. water it weekly in the summer if it is hot/dry. Dig into it every few weeks just to make sure the mycelium is coming up. The mycelium will not come to the surface until fall once the chips are cool enough. Once you see this you will know it is getting close to the good time. The mycelium will fully make a mat of mycelium over teh top, it looks like overlay but it is fine.
They grow great.

Here is some wood lover spawn fully colonizing wood chips. I would expand this by 5 if I wanted to

more than fully colonized and way too much seed for its own good. Too much seed attrackes rodents and birds. They will piss you off. Notice the holes, it looks like it is dug through.


a little bed/patch I made


same area with a hole dug so that you can see the seed is colonizing. I just made it last week and it has been 40 degrees and raining all week. The seed is still colonizing even though the temps are cold and the water ratio is high due to nature. These aint cubes, this isnt indoor. No fea,temps,or rh to worry about. Nature can grow mushrooms a 100x better that you


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7972488 - 02/03/08 11:26 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I am a tri tip man myself.. a good piece of meat thats q'd right should not need bbq sauce in my opinion...

and chill out, rook move... listen to tahoe... and eat some damn ribs.. haha


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7972496 - 02/03/08 11:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

the store around here has try tip on sale for 2.88 a pounds. That is a damn good deal. We are actually going to get a few for today. Finally some sun today, super bowl, and a bbq. I will use some mequite chips to smoke it.


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7972516 - 02/03/08 11:34 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hell yeah.. around here its usually 4 to 5 bucks a lb... today it will most likely be on sale. Im gonna go check.. haha... im fucking hungry...

but yeah.. wood chips, spawn, ground, outside, happy, all that...


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7972518 - 02/03/08 11:34 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i got some boneless ribeye and some chicken legs to grill up for the game.

gonna be good.

i always hit the ribeye up with a little italian dressing and some garlic pepper and seasoned salt throw em on there and let it get nice and rare and then chow down.

sometimes i'll pour some beer on em, but i usually save that for fajitas or sirloin as ribeye is tasty enough by itself.


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7972530 - 02/03/08 11:37 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ribeye is good. It is on sale also. It is a rich cut. I picked up 2 steak the other day. i have one in the fridge also. MMMM. Cattle will be good today!!!

You know whats fucked up? there is a video going around in california that they are showing at the schools about meat processing farms. You know that second rate undercover video of them being inhumane.
They show this shit and advertise it as fact and that every cow goes through this when they are slaughtered


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7972532 - 02/03/08 11:37 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

try marinading the ribeye in orange juice or some other fruit juice (peach is good...) for about an hour, then season and grill... it flushes so good... haha... really good shit.. all the sugars caramelize in the meat...

on topic response... I have never tried those mushies.... let us all know what you think when they are done.. maybe a grow log? with smoked pork ribs on the side?


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7972537 - 02/03/08 11:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks man I appreciate it


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7972558 - 02/03/08 11:44 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7972624 - 02/03/08 11:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah...its not working


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7972655 - 02/03/08 12:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

damn.. I dont want to see a cow getting fucked up.. I dont want to shake hands with it before I eat it.. haha


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7972723 - 02/03/08 12:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Tahoe....you're a dick. Why do you have to fuck with people before you help? Everyone was a noob once. Someone can be very experienced with cubes and be a noob with another species....don't pigeon hole.

Stop being a dick!


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: WWorker]
    #7972766 - 02/03/08 12:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Tahoe....you're a dick. Why do you have to fuck with people before you help? Everyone was a noob once. Someone can be very experienced with cubes and be a noob with another species....don't pigeon hole.

Stop being a dick!




very experienced with mushrooms is very experienced with mushrooms. They are all basically the same when it comes to producing spawn.

I can be a dick if I want. If you look at the first question about hickory chips it was vague. I gave a vague answer. I have never heard of pc'ing wood chips but I have heard of pc'ing ribs to tenderize them before smoking. So hickory+pc=ribs. What else was I supposed to think?

I also gave him step by step instruction on how not to fail when growing some azures outdoors. If he follows the instruction he will have a 99% chance of sucess. But than again how would I know. I do not post pics of my grows so I must be full of shit.


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7972879 - 02/03/08 12:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

no....experience with mycelium is experience with mycelium....the fruiting conditions on the other hand can be very different....or you would have bumper crops of weilli growing right now.....

I am not trying to mince words with you regarding mycology...you would tear me to shreds....but you pigeon hole...it sux.

And you do have a right to be a dick I guess...but it sux that your help and advice must be cloaked within jab.

OP--sorry for the hijack.


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: WWorker]
    #7972949 - 02/03/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i like the cut of your jib :wink:

Shit I was just having a little fun with it. it was late last night and I just spent the whole day hunting in the bay area and introducing a new non native species to the bay.
This non native species might also have something to do with this thread


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7973000 - 02/03/08 01:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

be a dick.. its what makes you you... haha

what did you introduce out there?


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7973028 - 02/03/08 01:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

tahoe said:
i think your question was answered early.

I just double checked, i guess hickor will be okay. How much are you paying for it???
Get this stuff, it comes in three colors. it is 5 bucks for a big bag and works great
http://www.scotts.com/index.cfm/event/ProductGuide.product/documentId/7c16bee18f4276b2673c22dc961a7348


here are some pictures of the wood chips in action. Just boil them if you are worried. If they are going outside right away then you d not need to boil. Just spread a light layer on the ground and cover with 2 inches of chips. Water the chips






yea sorry for the non-sense but id listen to Tahoe the chip for the smoker are for smokin and kinda spendy if i remember. the bag Tahoe shows are cheap and what ya find around that are supporting life now.

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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7973070 - 02/03/08 01:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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be a dick.. its what makes you you... haha

what did you introduce out there?




oh nothing, I would hate to get the greenies all up in arms over a non native species moving in and displacing the native species.

Hmm, weird. They get all pissed when this happens all other species except homo sapiens


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7973129 - 02/03/08 01:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Your fridge is full of contaminants....99% success rate...ha...and yes you should really PC wood chips if your using them for indoor spawn....


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7973130 - 02/03/08 01:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

haha... truth be told...


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7973159 - 02/03/08 01:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

DJ Yosha thanks for the primus quote.

lots of good info in this thread. im definitely gonna start some up this summer. someone said theirs are still colonizing at 40 degrees, could i go ahead and get a patch started or should i wait til summer?


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: freetree77]
    #7973185 - 02/03/08 01:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

no pc woodchip... boil only... cool... spawn... grow.... hehehehehe... and thenn... NO AND THEN!


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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7973720 - 02/03/08 03:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Your fridge is full of contaminants....99% success rate...ha...and yes you should really PC wood chips if your using them for indoor spawn....



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who told you this??? Where are you getting this false info?

If you are using bran flakes with it than it needs to be put in jars and pc'ed.
Woodlovers will colonize clean chips faster than contams have a chance to get hold of it, even indoors.
these chips were not boiled. Just mixed straight from the bag with the grain, indoors.



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Re: Azurescens A Few Questions.? [Re: tahoe]
    #7974027 - 02/03/08 04:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Interesting...i'll do this...and if I fail....YOU'RE A DEAD MAN...RAWR


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