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ShemRahBoo
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High Dose Experiment (Newcomer)
#7971006 - 02/02/08 10:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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What is up everyone?
I am new here, and I thought that I would ask a question to you all in my first post.
Alright, so, I have tried mushrooms a few times, once in the woods (first time, highly positive experience), once in isolation (did not trip that hard because of dosage, and it was the day after my 1st experience), and once at a show.
These have all been positive experiences, and yet I wonder how far out into this psilo-psychedelic world I can venture. I have taken LSD before, with positive results as well, my first time being alone during my peak (also an extremely beautiful experience).
I am procuring 4.5 grams of some high quality mushrooms (species unknown) and will post pictures when I get them. I was wondering how many of you have had success/or any experience with a solo trip with a similar dosage? I would probably eat them, and relax in my bed in the dark, possibly with some music, but probably just alone with my thoughts. I am relatively comfortable controlling myself on psychedelics, although every time I have tripped I ate 1/2 of an eighth, (eyed out, so it is not definite). I was wondering how much further into the realm of the fungus I will enter, comparing 1.75 grams to 4.5.
I am just wondering who has tripped with a similar dose in isolation before, and what have been your results? I realize it is different for everyone,
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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: ShemRahBoo]
#7971070 - 02/02/08 10:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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well, id be careful its kind of like being at the pool when you where a little kid where you feel confident at the shallow end but one day you ventured out and didn't see the ledge and all of sudden your learning to swim for the first time.
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wildchild68
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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: whiterussia]
#7971080 - 02/02/08 10:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Personally, I would go for the 3-3.5 gram mark first. 1.75 to 4.5 will be a huge jump. Things start getting very intense very fast.
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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: ShemRahBoo]
#7971101 - 02/02/08 10:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ShemRahBoo said: What is up everyone?
I am new here, and I thought that I would ask a question to you all in my first post.
Alright, so, I have tried mushrooms a few times, once in the woods (first time, highly positive experience), once in isolation (did not trip that hard because of dosage, and it was the day after my 1st experience), and once at a show. 
These have all been positive experiences, and yet I wonder how far out into this psilo-psychedelic world I can venture. I have taken LSD before, with positive results as well, my first time being alone during my peak (also an extremely beautiful experience).
I am procuring 4.5 grams of some high quality mushrooms (species unknown) and will post pictures when I get them. I was wondering how many of you have had success/or any experience with a solo trip with a similar dosage? I would probably eat them, and relax in my bed in the dark, possibly with some music, but probably just alone with my thoughts. I am relatively comfortable controlling myself on psychedelics, although every time I have tripped I ate 1/2 of an eighth, (eyed out, so it is not definite). I was wondering how much further into the realm of the fungus I will enter, comparing 1.75 grams to 4.5.
I am just wondering who has tripped with a similar dose in isolation before, and what have been your results? I realize it is different for everyone,
OP- There is something you need to understand about magic mushrooms. With every added gram(dry), the effects go up exponentially.
Honestly, I think you're ready for 3 or 3.5G as the other person said. 4.5 would be extremely intense- I did 4.0 the other weekend and was BEYOND fucked up, not to forget how bad the fear will be on 4.5.
and, if you truly feel ready for the journey of a lifetime(intense fear/worry), please do not take vit c to enhance it further and do not mix other drugs with your mush dose. Have some milk lying around to drink, if things are too out of hand- they'll bring you down a couple notches.
Really hope you know what you're doing if you go for the 4.5's, because messing with hallucinogens is serious business-I'm sure you've read those trip reports of ppl visitng hell and back.
Hope I didn't sound condescending in this post, I'm just looking out.
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Feanor


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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: ShemRahBoo]
#7971117 - 02/02/08 10:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Welcome to the Shroomery!
If you feel it calling you, you need to do the Terence McKenna Heroic Dose. This will lead you to a hyperdimensional and translinguistic realm, one that you can only enter when your Ego is left behind.
Make sure you know your mushroom strain. I take it that you are probably going to be getting some Psilocybe Cubensis. Take 5 dried grams of Psilocybe Cubensis in total, silent darkness. I would go ahead and lock yourself up in your closet. If some individuals are going to make noises at your place that you may be able to hear, go ahead and stick some earplugs in. Remember total, silent darkness.
The more you shatter your external forms of stimulation, the better, for you will be coerced into externalizing the interior. Being devoid of all external stimuli forces your mind to create and interpret its own, unique, and internally contrived stimuli.
Now, it is needless to say that you will most likely have an Ego Death or an Ego Loss. That, my friend, is the psychedelic experience. Hopefully, you will have an Ego Loss instead of an Ego Death. Basically, you will most likely not have any idea as to who you are, what you are, where you are, etc. You will either experience this in absolute blithe (Ego Loss) or absolute insanity (Ego Death). Either way, you will have an amazing experience.
Have fun, stay safe, and report back....
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greystealth
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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: Feanor]
#7971188 - 02/02/08 11:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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longbottom_leaf said: Welcome to the Shroomery!
If you feel it calling you, you need to do the Terence McKenna Heroic Dose. This will lead you to a hyperdimensional and translinguistic realm, one that you can only enter when your Ego is left behind.
Make sure you know your mushroom strain. I take it that you are probably going to be getting some Psilocybe Cubensis. Take 5 dried grams of Psilocybe Cubensis in total, silent darkness. I would go ahead and lock yourself up in your closet. If some individuals are going to make noises at your place that you may be able to hear, go ahead and stick some earplugs in. Remember total, silent darkness.
The more you shatter your external forms of stimulation, the better, for you will be coerced into externalizing the interior. Being devoid of all external stimuli forces your mind to create and interpret its own, unique, and internally contrived stimuli.
Now, it is needless to say that you will most likely have an Ego Death or an Ego Loss. That, my friend, is the psychedelic experience. Hopefully, you will have an Ego Loss instead of an Ego Death. Basically, you will most likely not have any idea as to who you are, what you are, where you are, etc. You will either experience this in absolute blithe (Ego Loss) or absolute insanity (Ego Death). Either way, you will have an amazing experience.
Have fun, stay safe, and report back....
That was so intriguing, that he got me to want to take 5G's. I've only experienced ego loss a little once, but am curious to what ego death is like.
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Feanor


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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: greystealth]
#7971217 - 02/02/08 11:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks.
An Ego Death is INTENSE! The first time I had one, my mentor said, "Well, I don't know whether to say congratulations or sorry!"
An Ego Death is truly one of the most painfully psychological experiences you will ever go through; however, it truly is a learning experience, and it further betters your understanding of the world.
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greystealth
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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: Feanor]
#7971237 - 02/02/08 11:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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you, just don't realize who or what u are?
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Feanor


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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: greystealth]
#7971249 - 02/02/08 11:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Correct.
You may forget your name. You'll forget how you even got into that state of mind. The words marijuana and mushrooms kept on popping into my head during an Ego Loss one time, and I had absolutely no idea what they meant!
I know some people who will write themselves notes before high doses. The note might read, "You ate 5g's of mushrooms; don't worry; you will be fine." These don't help sometimes, however, especially when you have no idea what it is that you are reading!
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greystealth
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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: Feanor]
#7971392 - 02/03/08 12:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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man, I bet the fear is crazy intense...
I had 3G's and a gram booster that brought me up to 4, I had moments of intense fear feeling "Will I be okay?". Fortunately, it was hardwired in my brain that 4Gs is a safe dose-so the fear wasn't too bad. CAn't imagine 5 though or even 6-good god.
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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: ShemRahBoo]
#7971976 - 02/03/08 07:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Man, take your time and work up. Everyone is different. Some people are moire sensitive to shrooms than others, and some people are not ready for high doses as quickly as others. At the time I was embarrassed, but not anymore.....I pissed my pants and had ego loss on 3 grams one time. I have already portioned out 3s, 4s, 4.5s, and 5 grams of dried, powdered shrooms into foodsaver bags. I took 3 after my first grow and I pissed my pants, forgot I ate shrooms, forgot who I was, had memories of my family and children and didn't know who they were....etc.
The next day I, 1)thanked god that I didn't take the 4-5 grams packages, and 2) busted all my 5s into 2 - 2.5s. I may be ready for 5 one day, but it will be a while.
Go slow. Shrooms can be scary.
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ShemRahBoo
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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: WWorker]
#7972027 - 02/03/08 08:22 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you for all of the informative replies.
I do take the psychedelic experience quite seriously, as I have encountered fear before. I think that maybe I will go for a 3 gram experience, or 3.5 rather than 4.5. It seems that it may be a little much, to jump from one void to an extremely more intense void. Perhaps I will eat the 4.5 when I get it, but I don't know, it will depend on my mood at the time of the experiment.
I did not truly realize that the grams go up exponentially, but now that I do, I can't really even imagine an experience 2x more powerful than my last. My friends gobble up eighths like its nothing, but I on the other hand get quite quite quite heavy effects off a half eighth. I wonder what the difference is. Maybe I am more psychedelically sensitive, because I know that is possible.
I am not sure I am prepared for an Ego Death, or even an Ego Loss, but one day I hope to find out when that time comes.
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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: ShemRahBoo]
#7972082 - 02/03/08 08:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I never knew there was a difference between ego death and ego loss. I think if there is a difference, it's probably entirely subjective.
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ShemRahBoo
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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: g00ru]
#7972088 - 02/03/08 08:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, I didn't know that either. I imagine once your ego dies, it's gone forever and you must rebuild, but if you just lose it, you will find it when you come back to reality.
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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: ShemRahBoo]
#7972095 - 02/03/08 08:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, if it dies you gotta go find a new one, where as if you just lose it you just gotta go look for it.
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Re: High Dose Experiment (Newcomer) [Re: krypto2000]
#7972208 - 02/03/08 09:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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so far i've found higher doses less scary overall than lower. with medium doses there's enough of your ego left to struggle for control, panic when it slips, get paranoid etc., and that can go on for hours. with the high, it can be a terrifying passage as you "die" but then, well, wonderful. i haven't had a high-dose bad experience yet. i feel very lucky about that as the potential badness of the bad at that intensity... respect, respect, respect.
earplugs and total darkness: yes good idea.
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