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How long will the Shroomery be around?
#7970468 - 02/02/08 08:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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is the answer forever?
i'd hate to see this amazing site get shut down, but this country is fucked up (im assuming the servers are in the US)
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Psy Baba
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Atheist]
#7970511 - 02/02/08 08:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If the shroomery ever did get shut down, something similar would pop up. but I doubt there is any validity to shutting it down currently.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Psy Baba]
#7970526 - 02/02/08 08:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It would just get mirrored somewhere else,
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Psy Baba]
#7970529 - 02/02/08 08:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think the shroomery will be here until the year 2012, at which point the world will either end or a great shift in consciousness will occur and we will all become telepathic and communicate through the sheer force of our minds.
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Psy Baba
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: champ]
#7970536 - 02/02/08 08:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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MIND FORUMS!!!!!
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: champ]
#7970537 - 02/02/08 08:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It WILL be around forever. you hear me?!?!
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#7970543 - 02/02/08 08:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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There's a little bit of Shroomery in every one of us.
And if it were to be shut down, we could always have Shroomery rememiscence parties!
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#7970544 - 02/02/08 08:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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remember when overgrow.net was shut down they can find a reason to shut us down, but right now they are too busy arresting terminally ill patients in california
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Coaster]
#7970560 - 02/02/08 08:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Coaster said: remember when overgrow.net was shut down they can find a reason to shut us down, but right now they are too busy arresting terminally ill patients in california
than lets set up the server in another country. its the power of the web!!
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Coaster]
#7970562 - 02/02/08 08:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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isnt this website equivalent to a meth-making site in the eyes of the DEA?
shrooms are illegal as fuck here too
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Atheist]
#7970566 - 02/02/08 08:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is why DEA = Bad news.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Atheist]
#7970573 - 02/02/08 08:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Atheist said: isnt this website equivalent to a meth-making site in the eyes of the DEA?
shrooms are illegal as fuck here too
Shrooms aren't THAT bad And a lot of Cubensis strains are native to America. Spores are still legal in most states. I'm not too sure about mycelium cultures though.
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Hasta siempre, comandante.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: meatcakeman]
#7970610 - 02/02/08 09:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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we should find out how much it would cost to back everything up onto an out of country server and start up a "shroomery immortality fund"
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: meatcakeman]
#7970617 - 02/02/08 09:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
meatcakeman said:
Quote:
Atheist said: isnt this website equivalent to a meth-making site in the eyes of the DEA?
shrooms are illegal as fuck here too
Shrooms aren't THAT bad And a lot of Cubensis strains are native to America. Spores are still legal in most states. I'm not too sure about mycelium cultures though.
not to us theyre not. but to the organization who thinks pot rots your brain out, and arrests people in a state that legalized medicinal cannabis against the states wishes, it is.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Atheist]
#7970634 - 02/02/08 09:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't think the servers are in the US?
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#7970635 - 02/02/08 09:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sometimes I just don't understand the reasoning of the government.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: meatcakeman]
#7970708 - 02/02/08 09:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If the internet exists, so will the shroomery, in some form.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: meatcakeman]
#7970720 - 02/02/08 09:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
meatcakeman said:
Quote:
Atheist said: isnt this website equivalent to a meth-making site in the eyes of the DEA?
shrooms are illegal as fuck here too
Shrooms aren't THAT bad And a lot of Cubensis strains are native to America. Spores are still legal in most states. I'm not too sure about mycelium cultures though.
mycelium in any form is illegal (except nature)
the spores are rarely used for microscopes, it is a giant loophole in the drug system (and they always get fixed)
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Atheist]
#7970956 - 02/02/08 10:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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A little birdy told me seven years.
He also told me two years ago we'd be in a recession this year so he may be onto something.
Viva la Shroomery!
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Atheist]
#7970977 - 02/02/08 10:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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We've been around since August 1997 so that's 10 1/2 years without a single problem (knock on wood). Overgrow was shut down because the owner was involved in an illegal seed business, not because of the content of the site. People frequently suggest we move the servers out of the USA (they're in Arizona) but they forget that, despite the current administration's best efforts, this country still has some of the strongest free speech laws in the world. As long as we continue to strictly adhere to all applicable laws, I expect us to be around forever.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Ythan]
#7970989 - 02/02/08 10:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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We need to start a pool: When will Ythan make post #10,000 ?
I'm guessing sometime before this year is over.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Ythan]
#7970990 - 02/02/08 10:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Forever and ever.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: CherryBom]
#7970993 - 02/02/08 10:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Viva la Shroomery!
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: CherryBom]
#7971000 - 02/02/08 10:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Sell Your Soul]
#7971010 - 02/02/08 10:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cut me in on the action and post 10k can be whenever you want!
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7971018 - 02/02/08 10:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If humans still exist, so will the Internet... and if the internet still exists, so will shroomery. I intend to be a crazy old man, talking to other crazy old shroomery veterans
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Atheist]
#7971019 - 02/02/08 10:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Long Live the Shroomery
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Ythan]
#7971021 - 02/02/08 10:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Kind of unrelated but I made this a while ago and I may as well share it. Look at us grow!
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Ythan]
#7971027 - 02/02/08 10:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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945 NEW members last month? Shite!
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Ythan]
#7971034 - 02/02/08 10:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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How many of those are puppets?
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Atheist]
#7971052 - 02/02/08 10:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Atheist said: isnt this website equivalent to a meth-making site in the eyes of the DEA?
shrooms are illegal as fuck here too
Not everyone here grows, much like myself. I wouldn't worry about it too much anyway.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Robo]
#7971062 - 02/02/08 10:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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And furthermore if you aren't doing anything illegal you shouldn't have anything to worry about.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Sell Your Soul]
#7971064 - 02/02/08 10:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Most of them.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: CherryBom]
#7971095 - 02/02/08 10:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
CherryBom said: Most of them.
no less than half.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Ythan]
#7971112 - 02/02/08 10:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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As long as the admin keeps banning dumb fucks who ask if people can sell them shrooms like the other day, I think they have no legit reason to shut us down.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Ythan]
#7971152 - 02/02/08 11:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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The shroomery has been around for a long time! It will still be around for a long time...oh yea.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Atheist]
#7971175 - 02/02/08 11:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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In the year 2525.....will The Shroomery still be alive? 
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Learyfan]
#7971185 - 02/02/08 11:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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That oldie has always been a favorite of mine.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Atheist]
#7971252 - 02/02/08 11:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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> isnt this website equivalent to a meth-making site in the eyes of the DEA?
Since when are meth making websites illegal?
I have considered writing a web browsing client that saves all new posts on the shroomery to a mysql database, so in the event that something happened I would have all the data and could put it back up.
It would be a pain to authenticate all the users again though.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Learyfan]
#7971262 - 02/02/08 11:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i do remember hearing that song somewhere before.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#7971432 - 02/03/08 12:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said: I have considered writing a web browsing client that saves all new posts on the shroomery to a mysql database, so in the event that something happened I would have all the data and could put it back up.
It would be a pain to authenticate all the users again though.
I'd happily put a raw copy of the database on BitTorrent or something except for that exact problem. How do you protect everybody's passwords, e-mail addresses, PMs, IPs, mod and admin forums, etc? We could just exclude the sensitive data but that makes it a lot less useful to reconstruct the site. Or we could encrypt the whole thing with a key held only by the admins for emergencies, but I don't think many people would bother to download 3.4GB of data that they couldn't do anything with. There doesn't seem to be a good solution, plus I really don't think the site is in any danger, which is why I never went forward with this.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Ythan]
#7971444 - 02/03/08 12:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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How would people react if they found that they had to register from scratch and start over?
Imagines pitchforks and torches ...
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Ythan]
#7971464 - 02/03/08 12:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Only thing that could realistically derail the Shroomery is political oppression. Peak oil (among other things) will cause that to happen within the forseeable future IMO. It will be a gradual process and is nothing to be alarmed about right now.
Whatever comes.. I've been here for TEN freakin' years and I'm gonna enjoy the site as long as possible!!
When it comes to the Shroomery, you ain't seen nothin' yet babee!!
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Ythan]
#7971518 - 02/03/08 12:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Perhaps you could rsync it every night via cron job to a server at a different ISP, that would be good enough. Maybe it could be integrated into the regular backup process - as long as you are going to back up the data, it might as well be a remote backup.
I have an a semi-underground website and one of our protections is to have mirrors all over the world. We have more than a dozen mirrors on five continents, they would all have to be raided at once to take it down. Since there is no global internet police that just is not possible, so no one would be likely to try. There is also a secret mirror that holds the content but doesn't run a web server, just in case anyone gets any ideas.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Ythan]
#7971626 - 02/03/08 01:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hoo-Ray for Free speech laws!!!
-------------------- 'Pain is meant to wake us up. People try to hide their pain. But they're wrong. Pain is something to carry, like a radio. You feel your strength in the experience of pain. It's all in how you carry it. That's what matters. Pain is a feeling. Your feelings are a part of you. Your own reality. If you feel ashamed of them, and hide them, you're letting society destroy your reality. You should stand up for your right to feel your pain and leave the Shroomery.' ~ Jim Morrison
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: blackegg]
#7971639 - 02/03/08 01:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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First amendment FTW woo hoo
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Ythan]
#7971660 - 02/03/08 01:48 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ythan said: Kind of unrelated but I made this a while ago and I may as well share it. Look at us grow!
Then how come the newest month is February of '08 
(Yeah, I'm sure the answer is because it's some automated graph that you programmed )
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: jewunit]
#7971665 - 02/03/08 01:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well he probably made the algorithm a while ago and it keeps updating as things go along.
-------------------- Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake. -Erik Davis
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#7971668 - 02/03/08 01:50 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: jewunit]
#7971670 - 02/03/08 01:50 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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-------------------- Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake. -Erik Davis
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#7971676 - 02/03/08 01:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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If I were sober my ninja woulda been quicker than your reply.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: jewunit]
#7971682 - 02/03/08 01:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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:incredulity:
-------------------- Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake. -Erik Davis
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#7971704 - 02/03/08 01:59 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You doubt me 
You down for one game of Catan? I'm pretty confident I can hand you your ass no matter what.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Ythan]
#7971916 - 02/03/08 07:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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until we run out of shrooms
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Atheist]
#7971967 - 02/03/08 07:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I imagine that the Shroomery will be around a lot longer then I will be.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: MOTH]
#7971991 - 02/03/08 07:59 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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This started with just 6 people? Cool.
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Re: How long will the Shroomery be around? [Re: Sell Your Soul]
#7974245 - 02/03/08 05:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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andyistic said: How many of those are puppets?
I updated it to exclude permabanned members, so hopefully not many anymore.
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jewunit said: Then how come the newest month is February of '08 
(Yeah, I'm sure the answer is because it's some automated graph that you programmed )
No when I made it I just guessed for the future numbers. 
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Alan Rockefeller said: Perhaps you could rsync it every night via cron job to a server at a different ISP, that would be good enough. Maybe it could be integrated into the regular backup process - as long as you are going to back up the data, it might as well be a remote backup.
That's a good idea I'll mention it to the other admins.
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