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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Ego Death]
    #7977093 - 02/04/08 10:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well, can you elaborate?
I can see what you're saying with the second part, but how is dressing nice and holding down a job lying?


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: jewunit]
    #7977183 - 02/04/08 10:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Wearing that suit is purposefully misleading.

Most people assume you are professional yet you may not be. You are actually the same as everybody else, you are prone to the possibility of all the same human traits.

Yet somehow the majority of people have been trained to believe certain things about a suited person.

The suit is a bad example because you may or may not be deliberately deceiving, but you see what I'm getting at?
Lies, deception are everywhere. Its just a case of what deception is acceptable to the individual.

The example of a false smile or a white lie is probably better.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Ego Death]
    #7977193 - 02/04/08 10:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Seems like the problem would be in the person accepting stereotypes surrounding those who wear suits, not the people wearing the suits themselves. I mean, if I'm lying by wearing a suit, then I'm lying by being white. I may or may not be a stereotypical white guy, but since I am white people have preconceived notions of who I am as a person. That's not my fault, that's theirs.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: jewunit]
    #7977694 - 02/04/08 01:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:biggrin:  i dont eat animals


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Ego Death]
    #7977898 - 02/04/08 02:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You're blinded by your own bullshit.

I hope you get caught. Part of the increased cost on goods is spent to catch thieves such as yourself. While it is a headache paying higher prices, It's nice to know that some of my hard earned money is spent catching thieving pieces of shit.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Cowgold]
    #7978343 - 02/04/08 04:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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You're blinded by your own bullshit.

I hope you get caught. Part of the increased cost on goods is spent to catch thieves such as yourself. While it is a headache paying higher prices, It's nice to know that some of my hard earned money is spent catching thieving pieces of shit.




The thing is, it's obviously NOT spent on catching thieves. The company is basically just like "well fuck it"

They put in some cameras and maybe a security guard but the fact is that most of the time people don't get caught. How many times have you been in a store where the door alarm goes off and they just wave them through? Personally, I've seen that happen a lot. I've seen it happen with people who are actually stealing.

The fact of the matter is a large corporation doesn't care about you, the little guy. The extra money that is built into the price of the item doesn't go toward catching thieves, as you suggest, it goes into the company's collective pocket. They are screwing YOU as the consumer, whether they're screwed or not.

Look at gas prices.

Gas is an inelastic commodity. If the price of gas goes up, the demand doesn't change. People NEED to get to work. People keep buying gas whether it's a dollar a gallon or ten dollars a gallon. They are keeping us dependent on this.

Large companies know this and they take advantage of consumers, exploiting their needs for a profit.

So if you think that that extra few cents you are paying for them to raise the price on things is going to deterring theft you are sadly mistaken.

Companies are just sticking the consumer with their losses.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7978382 - 02/04/08 04:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You really don't know much. People get caught stealing all the time. Preventative measures don't catch everyone, but they do catch people. Thieves eventually get caught.

When you steal you know there's risk involved. Businesses spend money to increase that risk and apparently the risk has gotten to high for Mr. $20,000 millionaire hobo. That's if the liar was even telling the truth when he said he doesn't steal anymore.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Cowgold]
    #7978530 - 02/04/08 04:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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You really don't know much. People get caught stealing all the time. Preventative measures don't catch everyone, but they do catch people. Thieves eventually get caught.

When you steal you know there's risk involved. Businesses spend money to increase that risk and apparently the risk has gotten to high for Mr. $20,000 millionaire hobo. That's if the liar was even telling the truth when he said he doesn't steal anymore.




They do get caught stealing, sure. It's just that they spend a lot less than they could if they really wanted to prevent it.
The money that is budgeted in for theft doesn't go for more security measures, it goes back to pad their profits from the theft.

If they actually used that money toward more preventative measures theft would decrease and so would prices.

This doesn't happen however, stores just assume theft will happen and they will prevent what they can, which is a minimum.

He admitted to being a thief, he just doesn't share the same point of moral view as most others. It's really not my business whether he steals or not. He is the one taking that risk, not I.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7981356 - 02/05/08 02:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:lol: you expect me to trust a corporation to DROP the prices of necessary goods like food if we stopped stealing? sure just like when their is a surplus of food they drop it. or when people own property that no one lives in, i'm sure people let homeless squat their.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: impgl]
    #7981369 - 02/05/08 02:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, i doubt big corporations really give a shit about people. people are greedy, and the more money you have the better off you are, why wouldn't people just steal money from you? a 400% markup is better than 200%.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #7981373 - 02/05/08 02:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

the thing is, i dont care much about money. i just hate having a job. i just want to bounce all over the world when im still at the peak of my youth, then around 35 or 40, live on a big land off the grid making food and building my own house. its been what i 've wanted since i was in grade school.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: recons]
    #7981836 - 02/05/08 09:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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agreed, large soulless businesses seem like they wouldnt care enough to let you off with a warning, theyd bring the hammer down and youre suffering legal repercussions

then again theres less bad vibes stealing from someplace thats expecting to be stolen from




Liars and thieves can have morals and ethics too.




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Movies to Download (yes piracy is theft)





really? I didnt actualy take anything, the company still has the shit, they still
sell it, how could it be theft if it's still where they left it?




You merely fondled a copy of it. No harm done unless it decides to go sentient and sue you for harassment.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Konnrade]
    #7982051 - 02/05/08 10:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

some one who seals cant have morals :lol:? im glad its subjective. i consider my self to be very moral. back in the bay when i dont have a job, i tend to spend my time with food not bombs. sometimes when i jack food (like this past sunday) i 've made food and shared it with many others. I dont steal from people, only large corporations that have a large surplus of goods meant to be sold at a profit, and if not, thrown away (dont believe me? i've had 3 grocery stores hide their dumpsters and/ or get a locked compactor since i've moved to london a few months ago).
      im always down to let people borrow shit (or have) from me if im not using it. just before i moved, i gave away my pressure cooker, my hepa flow hood, half O of weed, spore print, and a lot of other things just cause i wasnt going to use them anymore. when i've had a car, ill always pick up a hitcher. i also consider the act of eating meat and animal products to be immoral and quit imbibing in them. i stand against wars and slavery. i try not to support a system i feel is wrong. i also get involved with many other projects around the bay, like helping others fix their bikes in my community.
  i dont drop this shit in an attempt to boost my ego, merely as an example that, yes, some one like me exists. i steal shit, and i feel as though i have very high morals. what can i say, i feel offended when some one tells me that i cant have good morals or ethics because i steel from corporations :ohwell:


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: impgl]
    #7982092 - 02/05/08 10:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The point of the post is that yes they can have morals, but it's understandable not to trust that they do and that the morals will shelter you from being their victim... just like it makes sense not to trust that the bomb will be a dud, and hug it.

Plus I was being an asshole. I like to do that.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Konnrade]
    #7982105 - 02/05/08 10:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: impgl]
    #7982168 - 02/05/08 10:56 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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i consider my self to be very moral.





So does every Taliban member. Doesn't mean our morals are compatible.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: impgl]
    #7982183 - 02/05/08 11:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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im glad its subjective.




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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Ego Death]
    #7982185 - 02/05/08 11:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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You don't get probabtion in my country for stealing from shops.  The police won't even deal with it unless its over $150 worth of goods.




2 girls I know got busted stealing a packet of crisps and a drink from marks ands spencers (which came to about £1.20) and ended up spending 6 hours in a cell because of it :shrug:

However, interestingly, they both had bait shit on them.. and the pigs didn't even touch it.. They even left a spliff in their grinder..:shrug:


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: impgl]
    #7982381 - 02/05/08 11:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hug
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