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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Ego Death]
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Ego Death said:
How does someone called JewUnit had the ordacity to call anyone else scum lol :crazy:

Jewunit with classsic threads such as...

Fuck me in my tender asshole
^I'm not joking look at his main threads


What does my screen name have to do with that, and how does a thread entitled "Fuck me in my tender asshole" (which had to do with OSU losing their first football game this year to Illinois) have to do with anything?

Face it man, you get by in life by taking advantage of people. I don't care if you've saved money, that doesn't make what you're doing honorable. I've got money in my bank account too and I am glad to know that I didn't do it by being a scumbag.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Irdamage]
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Irdamage said:
By judging another man for how he makes his way in life, its rather obvious that you have either never ever been in his situation in your life, or that you have and that your upset because hes taking a different route than you did.

If calling someone a thief and a liar makes you feel better about your own life and your route to success than by all means do it.


:lol:

I bet you're right. I'm sure Wiccan has never stole something unnecessary like an Xbox HD when he had $20,000 in the bank. Poor Ego Death. What a terrible position he is in.

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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
Ego Death said:
How does someone called JewUnit had the ordacity to call anyone else scum lol :crazy:

Jewunit with classsic threads such as...

Fuck me in my tender asshole
^I'm not joking look at his main threads


What does my screen name have to do with that, and how does a thread entitled "Fuck me in my tender asshole" (which had to do with OSU losing their first football game this year to Illinois) have to do with anything?

Face it man, you get by in life by taking advantage of people. I don't care if you've saved money, that doesn't make what you're doing honorable. I've got money in my bank account too and I am glad to know that I didn't do it by being a scumbag.




Not only does he level ridiculous arguments, but he shows ignorance.


And, please learn to write words that you actually know.

ordacity = audacity. That burns my eyes.

And, clearly he's stealing the article itself. At least the real author had some semblence of vernacular and language. Spare me.


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Renegade heaps, humanity abandoned
Bower of the vowels, you lit them and fanned them.
Mercury, the courier, celestial messenger
Bed with Dawn, your bride.
Arrowhead of Diane, pierce the mind of a man,
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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: jewunit]
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Your definitions of a scumbag clearly differ...

I think if a mans honest about his faults and actions and is willing to take the bad parts of his choices hes not a scumbag....if he tries to lie and deny any of his actions...then hes a scumbag.

Being honest, is the act of not being fraudulent. If a thief takes something from you, but does not deny it in anyway, he is still honest.

Even people who work hard for their money can be dishonest and scumbags. Most just lie to themselves first, the rest just comes like clockwork at that point.

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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Irdamage]
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You can be honest and still be scum. If I went and raped little boys and girls, but was up front about it, would I not still be a scumbag?


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Irdamage]
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He may be honest, but he's still scum from stealing from you in the first place.

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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Redstorm]
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What if hes stealing food for his family to eat? or pet food for a dog he got when he was more financially well endowed? where do you draw the scumline so to speak?

Is it the motivation behind the theft itself? or is it merely the act itself?

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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Irdamage]
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Irdamage said:
Your definitions of a scumbag clearly differ...

I think if a mans honest about his faults and actions and is willing to  take the bad parts of his choices hes not a scumbag....if he tries to lie and deny any of his actions...then hes a scumbag.

Being honest, is the act of not being fraudulent. If a thief takes something from you, but does not deny it in anyway, he is still honest.

Even people who work hard for their money can be dishonest and scumbags. Most just lie to themselves first, the rest just comes like clockwork at that point.


That, sir, is what we call rationalizing.

So, if I fuck people left and right with abandon, and own up to it... I'm magically not a bad person anymore?

Right. :shrug:

Nice try though.


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Daedalus, your child is falling and the Labyrinth is calling.
Renegade heaps, humanity abandoned
Bower of the vowels, you lit them and fanned them.
Mercury, the courier, celestial messenger
Bed with Dawn, your bride.
Arrowhead of Diane, pierce the mind of a man,
Tongueless muse of time

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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Irdamage]
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I don't even need to address that argument because it's not the case here. We don't have to speculate as to why he steals, he's already told us he's financially stable.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Irdamage]
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Didn't I also say:

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I can understand the needy stealing some food, but you got $20K and steal xbox harddisks.


Hmm now then..

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its rather obvious that you have either never ever been in his situation in your life


You mean his situation of having $20.000 in a high-interest account in the bank, yet he's stealing stuff?

Also, don't judge me and what I've been through either :smile:

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your upset because hes taking a different route than you did.


I'm "upset" because he steals without need, and justifies it to himself. I use these harsh words (which are entirely correct) hoping it will get him thinking and go further along the recycling/curbing consumerism road and abandon the road of being a crook.

Stealing is wrong, especially frivolous theft. If a true hobo, a homeless person, grabs a loaf of bread and makes a run for it I will step aside to let him flee the store. But underhandedly stealing xbox harddisks? Come in!

Oh and the true hobo that steals the bread.. he will feel BAD about having stolen, not brag about it to his mates.


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
Poor Ego Death. What a terrible position he is in.


it took him 3 years to get that $20k, he must be spending at least half to have so little, so much for a frugal hobo


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
Hey there. What's new?


Nada, you ever move to that school in VA?

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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Irdamage]
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Irdamage said:
What if hes stealing food for his family to eat? or pet food for a dog he got when he was more financially well endowed? where do you draw the scumline so to speak?

Is it the motivation behind the theft itself? or is it merely the act itself?


It's all in context. If someone has a job but hoards the money away or blows it on unnecessary shit and then steals thing, I think he or she is scum. The same applies if a person refuses to get a job and then claims he has to steal to survive.

There are other ways of surviving that stealing though. If you are starving, there are food kitchens that will serve you for free.

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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Irdamage]
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Irdamage said:
What if hes stealing food for his family to eat? or pet food for a dog he got when he was more financially well endowed? where do you draw the scumline so to speak?

Is it the motivation behind the theft itself? or is it merely the act itself?


Theft is theft. The implications of fucking someone over still exist.

This is pretty simple.

The only difference in your scenario is the pity concept. The man who steals for his starving family is, in the eyes of some, worthy of pity.

But he's still a thief.


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Daedalus, your child is falling and the Labyrinth is calling.
Renegade heaps, humanity abandoned
Bower of the vowels, you lit them and fanned them.
Mercury, the courier, celestial messenger
Bed with Dawn, your bride.
Arrowhead of Diane, pierce the mind of a man,
Tongueless muse of time

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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: idiotek]
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1d10t3k said:
Redstorm said:
Hey there. What's new?


Nada, you ever move to that school in VA?


Nah, I decided I'm not going to law school. I'm in the midst of the application process to go get my Master's, though. I've been accepted everywhere I've applied so far and have a few more schools to hear back from in March.

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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Stealing is wrong, especially frivolous theft. If a true hobo, a homeless person, grabs a loaf of bread and makes a run for it I will step aside to let him flee the store. But underhandedly stealing xbox harddisks? Come in!

Oh and the true hobo that steals the bread.. he will feel BAD about having stolen, not brag about it to his mates.


Your logic here is a bit flawed. First off, can you show me what a "true" hobo is and what qualifies you to make that decision?>

It seems to me your trying to play the judge and jury of right and wrong based on your experience and what you deem is right or wrong?

There is no universal code that says theft is wrong, and certainly not one that says only wiccan seeker shall aprove which is correct and which is immoral.

What I am trying to say, is that by making these judgments so quickly and without proper background information, it really does show a lot peoples moral superiority complexes.

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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: BurningBeard]
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BurningBeard said:
The man who steals for his starving family is, in the eyes of some, worthy of pity.

But he's still a thief.


if the man goes to jail for stealing to feed his family the courts show no
leniency, he still goes to jail, he now has probation, fines, restitution and
supervision fees to pay... it just got harder to feed his family, now he has to
steal more, the sentance will increase and his poor children may die

seems that if he's swallowed his pride he'd have what he needed and maybe
been given a chance to make a better life for them


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Irdamage]
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Irdamage said:
There is no universal code that says theft is wrong


yes actually, there is, my people would cut your hands off for taking what is not yours


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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
BurningBeard said:
The man who steals for his starving family is, in the eyes of some, worthy of pity.

But he's still a thief.


if the man goes to jail for stealing to feed his family the courts show no
leniency, he still goes to jail, he now has probation, fines, restitution and
supervision fees to pay... it just got harder to feed his family, now he has to
steal more, the sentance will increase and his poor children may die

seems that if he's swallowed his pride he'd have what he needed and maybe
been given a chance to make a better life for them


QFT! :thumbup:


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Daedalus, your child is falling and the Labyrinth is calling.
Renegade heaps, humanity abandoned
Bower of the vowels, you lit them and fanned them.
Mercury, the courier, celestial messenger
Bed with Dawn, your bride.
Arrowhead of Diane, pierce the mind of a man,
Tongueless muse of time

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Re: Tricks of the rich hobo [Re: BurningBeard]
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I have a morality superiority complex


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