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HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND
    #7966989 - 02/01/08 10:32 PM (16 years, 2 hours ago)

my dumb beagle munched on one of these that was smashed up by a tree while i was taking the pics. also nibbled while i took that shot to.
sorry to be lazy but the one book i have will be my next stop i just wouldn't mind knowing what it is dumb ass ate..........:(
















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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: smily]
    #7967172 - 02/01/08 11:22 PM (16 years, 1 hour ago)

We need more info for an ID request. Please see the rules:



II. Accurate mushroom descriptions
    It is critical that you describe mushrooms fully and accurately in order to get a proper identification.

    A good picture of the mushrooms is invaluable, but not required.
    Along with the pictures YOU ARE REQUIRED to provide the following data:

    * Habitat (where [woods, pasture, state,province,country, altitude] and what [soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?)] does it grow on)
    * Characteristics of the gills (color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc)
    * Characteristics of the stem (length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc)
    * Characteristics of the cap (diameter,color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc)
    * Spore print color (very important!)
    * Color that the mushroom bruises
    * Scent of the mushroom
    * Anything else you might find important

    For a template ID request please see this thread.

    For more detailed guidelines for describing your finds, please view this document.

    For an explanation of mycological terms please refer to this document .



That said, I'll quote my reply to your post in another thread:

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CureCat said:
Umm.... well, dogs usually have the same susceptibility to poisonous mushrooms as we do. So I would not allow your dogs to eat anymore. There are some poisonous Agaricus species, which is what genus those mushrooms are in. The orange/red staining is a good sign it is not a poisonous species, but you should also smell the mushroom, to distinguish if it has a chemical-like odour. The poisonous ones smell decidedly chemical, phenol, or bleach like.




SMELL the mushroom!


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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: CureCat]
    #7967201 - 02/01/08 11:29 PM (16 years, 1 hour ago)

sorry i know the rules he seems fine i was just pic'ing them for the board when dumb ass decided to make dinner of a smashed one.

just wanted AN OPINION as to what it could be for Baileys sake.

unless he exhibits some weird ass behavior other then what he does normally I'm not concerned.

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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: smily]
    #7967217 - 02/01/08 11:35 PM (16 years, 1 hour ago)

LoL. He'll be okay if it was an edible species. With a sniffer like that, I can't imagine wanting to munch one of the poisonous chemical smelling ones anyway. And the red staining is a good sign.

Even if it was a poisonous one, he wont die (he didn't eat that much, and Agaricus are not deadly poisonous- except maybe if it was a really old or really young person, or they were ill, and they ate a LOT). He'd probably just vomit. But I'm guessing it is an edible.


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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: smily]
    #7967298 - 02/02/08 12:14 AM (16 years, 1 hour ago)

hi smily,

you should really be careful not to let your animal eat mushrooms like that.

i believe more dogs die each year from mushroom poisonings then humans do. dogs are much smaller and react in a more sensitive fashion to the various chemicals in mushrooms.

the mushroom in your photograph is most likely (to almost positively) a species of Agaricus. They can be tricky to identify down to exact species, because there are probably a minimum of at least two or three hundred different species of Agaricus found throughout the world (maybe more), including a good portion of these that make people ill to violently ill but probably rarely ever deadly poisonous for humans. but if a dog got a hold of one of the more toxic Agaricus there is a chance their little body could not handle it.

not to worry you too much, your dog will probably be OK. there are not many Agaricus species I can really identify from just photographs, I would need fresh specimens in hand and a book, and probably Potassium Hydroxide (KOH), a microscope, and even then there is a chance I would not find a exact match.

some Agaricus species smell pleasant and have a pleasing aroma as if they would be edible while they are really poisonous to some degree.

nice looking doggie. thank you for sharing

if he gets sick, i would suggest just, riding it out at home, and within 12-24 hours the dog would be back to normal. Agaricus mushrooms which are poisonous, the toxins contained in them are not very well known or documented yet, but they are not considered deadly for humans.. if the dog does not get sick 4 hours after the time of consuming them my guess is that there will be no ill effects, just a breif lesson for you in Mushroom Poisoning.


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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7967325 - 02/02/08 12:25 AM (16 years, 55 minutes ago)

GGreatOne234 thanks for the response i just check'd on captain flakes and he is fine so far (jus went outside to run the yard)

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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: smily]
    #8033836 - 02/17/08 07:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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sorry i know the rules he seems fine i was just pic'ing them for the board when dumb ass decided to make dinner of a smashed one.

just wanted AN OPINION as to what it could be for Baileys sake.

unless he exhibits some weird ass behavior other then what he does normally I'm not concerned.

how could you not love this face........





Sorry i know this is kinda a old post. However if your dog ever eats something that you believe will make it very sick as in might die attempt to give it hydrogen peroxide. like 2-3 ounces. my dog ate a large portion of rat poison and we called the vet and they told us to do this 5 mins after giving hydrogen peroxide to the dog he began vomiting and the vet found it quite funny cause thats what hydrogen peroxide will do but my dog is still alive. :P


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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: minnesotaftl]
    #8034090 - 02/17/08 09:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

how the hell did you get your dog to drink peroxide?


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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: snoot]
    #8035720 - 02/17/08 10:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hydrogen peroxide???

I accidentally drank a small amount of h202 once... I did some research on the toxicity, and it said it could potentially cause internal bleeding...... luckily, it was little enough that it was not harmful.

When my dog ate chocolate, we fed him a small amount of ipecac syrup, and that did that trick.


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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: smily]
    #8035787 - 02/17/08 10:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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how can you call him a dumbass for eating them when you are feeding them to him?
also why would you let your dog eat a mushroom that you do now know what it is. feeding him unknown mushrooms can killl him


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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: CubensisCutter]
    #8036042 - 02/17/08 11:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I think maybe he pulled the mushroom away right after he took the photo.


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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: CureCat]
    #8036136 - 02/17/08 11:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

he says that his dog nibbled it while he took the photo.


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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: CubensisCutter]
    #8036145 - 02/17/08 11:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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how can you call him a dumbass for eating them when you are feeding them to him?
also why would you let your dog eat a mushroom that you do now know what it is.  feeding him unknown mushrooms can kill him




ahahahhaa pic and a thousand words................looks that way docent it...............actually im staring at a non lit digital camera pre-veiw and bailey (dumb-ass) runs up from the side (wife holding him and his brother buddy) (buds & bails) LOLOLL we didnt name them they are strays. and snipes a bite as i pull away but not before i snap the pic if ya look ya can see dumb ass clearly lunging  at the shroom.

the hound loves white store button mushys dosent eat the inkys in the yard so i kinda trust him (bout 2 inches leads to why i posted) but i LOVE both them and their 6 foot sister Natasha the red tail boa (another story)

i looked at the pic again before posting look at his jowel face fucin sniper PLEASE PLEASE give me food then WHORE..........but i love my hounds.

BTW buddy the big one ate an entire cholate double fudge cake hes fine.

hope this answers your questions.

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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: smily]
    #8036204 - 02/18/08 12:09 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ohhhhh yeah im not asking for the ID for what you see in the pic he go a nibble (and if i freaked for all the things he ate id be crazy) its what he did off pic just before he ran over and sniped at the one im holding LOLOOLOLOLOL

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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: smily]
    #8037616 - 02/18/08 11:56 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Oh, so he just got in the pic accidentally? Hahaha, i see. Crazy dog!


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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: CureCat]
    #8037697 - 02/18/08 12:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

exactly that sucker is quick and my camera sux the view is non-powered not lit so ya have to stare at it and in came Bailey LOL

look at the determination in his face hes coming in for a snatch.

hes a bandit hard to walk at night he can smell the chicken bones lazy bastards throw on the side by the bus stops.

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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: smily]
    #8046224 - 02/20/08 06:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

shove one of these down a poor puppies throat and he has no choice but to consume just about any liquid. but yes we questioned the vet when we did it but it works wonders.


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Re: HELP Mushroom ID DUMB HOUND [Re: smily]
    #8046345 - 02/20/08 08:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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my dumb beagle munched on one of these that was smashed up by a tree while i was taking the pics. also nibbled while i took that shot to.
sorry to be lazy but the one book i have will be my next stop i just wouldn't mind knowing what it is dumb ass ate..........:(



















I think I've run into this shroom before...it smells like anise, correct?

It's edible, but it gives you incredibly unpleasant GI problems....imagine your tummy gurgling feeling like you're going to have the biggest fart, only to go to the bathroom to take a massive, messy dump...

In other words, I'd say it isn't edible...haha.


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