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Invisiblescruffymafia
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Ethnobotanical Stimulants?
    #7966872 - 02/01/08 09:52 PM (16 years, 2 hours ago)

I am regular user of stimulants, but they are getting so damn expensive recently. So i have been looking around alot for any ethnobotanicals that have a stimulant effect similar to cocaine or speed.

So far i have found:

Kratom (Mitragyna speciosa)
Kola Nut (Cola nitida)
Yerba Mate (Ilex paraguariensis)
Ma Huang (Ephedra sinica)
Khat (Catha edulis)

Has anyone tried these? Got any suggestions?

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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: scruffymafia]
    #7966923 - 02/01/08 10:05 PM (16 years, 2 hours ago)

khat can be nice. my buddy would make a tea outta the leafs , work for hours . like coffee w/ out jitters really, some mild euphoria. or eat as quid w/ lemon.  weee......
use to be able to get it in nyc, some african/somalii shops. or grow
yur own :smile: nice lookin' plant too.
cuttings are your best bet.


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: scruffymafia]
    #7968125 - 02/02/08 10:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Erythroxylum coca.
Yerba Mate.


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: felixhigh]
    #7968423 - 02/02/08 12:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Camellia sinensis is always nice.


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7969262 - 02/02/08 03:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Isnt Camellia sinensis just normal tea?

Hmm im having wet dreams over the possibilities with stimulant teas/mixes.

Imagine this tea mix:
Yerba
Ma Huang
Khat
Coca

Wow!! You would be buzzing hard!!! Now that would equal a good night out!


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: scruffymafia]
    #7977422 - 02/04/08 11:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

cocaine and speed  :thumbdown:


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: SaintDunsmere]
    #7980265 - 02/04/08 09:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

SaintDunsmere = :bucktoothfattygangsta:


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: scruffymafia]
    #7980574 - 02/04/08 10:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yohimbe!


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: felixhigh]
    #7981271 - 02/05/08 01:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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felixhigh said:
Erythroxylum coca.
Yerba Mate.


FH



never got much from coca. Beetle nut works better IMO


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: Nalim]
    #7982646 - 02/05/08 01:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Indeed there´s not much buzzing, and it´s not really something to party with.

Actually I forgot, my PREFERRED ethno stimulant is SAN PEDRO, end of the story.


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: felixhigh]
    #7982649 - 02/05/08 01:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Mine too!

But you can't really use it daily!

Trichocereus cacti will keep you awake for HOOOOOOURS!


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? *DELETED* [Re: felixhigh]
    #7982662 - 02/05/08 01:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: Chemy]
    #7982698 - 02/05/08 01:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I heard Ephedra species are really slow growing and hard to keep alive.


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? *DELETED* [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7982817 - 02/05/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: Chemy]
    #7982832 - 02/05/08 01:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Illex paraguayensis for sure my stimulant of choice, tobacco too.


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: casgoodie]
    #7983590 - 02/05/08 05:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Trichos as a stimulant???

I have yet to try cacti, is it a good stimulant?

My mate said: One small dose is like speed plus another small dose is like ecstacy and a full dose is like acid.

I thought he was full of shit, but is that actually true???


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: scruffymafia]
    #7983834 - 02/05/08 06:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Full of shit.


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: felixhigh]
    #7993685 - 02/07/08 08:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I just got a bunch of seeds of Acacia berlandieri and Acacia rigidula, some interesting alkaloids there!


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: ngnyus]
    #7993761 - 02/07/08 08:29 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I just got a bunch of seeds of Acacia berlandieri and Acacia rigidula, some interesting alkaloids there!



Are the seeds ingestible, and if so, have you tried??


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: 2end4]
    #7993888 - 02/07/08 08:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

iboga alcaloids and voccana africana, but i prefer, the psiquedelic i can have the effect i want , dream, alert, trypy ,or beyong, just no one is the same , and depend on dose and your iniciative way of thinking ,for me iboga is somethig else not a true psiquedelic
by the way i dont like stimulant ,that i why prefer psiquedelic since once i got bored of the alert stage i can change to what i want .
but once in a stimulant you can only be stimulated, boring
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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7994980 - 02/08/08 06:10 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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I heard Ephedra species are really slow growing and hard to keep alive.



IME they are easy as hell to keep alive. At least after they've reached 1month age.


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: Nalim]
    #7995857 - 02/08/08 11:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I just know alot of people who said they had trouble growing these plants...


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7996988 - 02/08/08 04:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I know me and I hadn't.


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? *DELETED* [Re: Nalim]
    #7996993 - 02/08/08 04:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: Chemy]
    #7997013 - 02/08/08 04:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah the natural habitat is mostly temperate zones if I'm not mistaken...

But this is starting to derail a bit. If anyone wants to talk about growing ephedra another thread is probably advisable. If not we can leave it at this.


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Re: Ethnobotanical Stimulants? [Re: 2end4]
    #7997934 - 02/08/08 08:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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ngnyus said:
I just got a bunch of seeds of Acacia berlandieri and Acacia rigidula, some interesting alkaloids there!



Are the seeds ingestible, and if so, have you tried??



Doubt if they contain enough alkaloids


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