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InvisibleMinstrel
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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: Icelander]
    #7969012 - 02/02/08 02:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Zzzap said:
I eagerly await the morally bankrupt and mentally vacant morons here who will no doubt explain that the people who did this are freedom fighters driven to such harsh means by the eeevil BUUUUUUUUSHitler and the genocidal foreign policy of every American administration ever.





I have just realized that you can take this quote and apply it readily to what America has done to Iraq, and the people who support said action.

The morally bankrupt and mentally vacant morons are the Zzzaps of the world. And the freedom fighters, well, they are the most powerful military force in history.

It holds much more truth.

It's easy to condemn without looking in the mirror.


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: Minstrel]
    #7969054 - 02/02/08 02:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm going to agree. It's such a cop out to say well who cares how we got there; now that we're there we can't let these folk push us around. Yet these are the same people that would most likely and instantly drop an atomic bomb on anyone with the nerve to come over here and fuck around in our country. What if someone determined that Bush was a "bad guy" and dangerous to their country. If they had the might to invade and control us I don't think anyone would complain about a little suicide bombing to defend our country.:tongue: I wouldn't if it was deemed necessary to secure our freedom.


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: Icelander]
    #7969081 - 02/02/08 02:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's not a cop out to not be interested in having yet another thread about how we never shoulda, woulda, coulda. This is a new thread, with a new question. Derail some Pub Super Bowl thread with this shit. Answer the question, "Should we surrender to people who strap bombs to retards and blow up other people simply going about their business?"

I know why this thread keeps getting derailed. Even the fucking kooks know I'm right, that we cannot afford to surrender.


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7969104 - 02/02/08 02:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8QALM9G2&show_article=1

Search all over and you will find they are larger now, after we have been at war with them and spending mega billions, then they were before 9/11.

You'll also find that the organizers have been mostly hanging out in Pakistan all of this time, not Iraq.

Ron Paul has been arguing ever since they fled Afghanistan for Pakistan that we should have followed them into Pakistan, and finished them off there, instead of staying behind in Afghanistan to Nation Build, and then attacking Iraq next.

Paul is still asking people why we are sending Billions in aide to an unelected Military dictator harboring Al Queda Organizers, all the while we are destroying a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, and are about to bomb another that had nothing to do with it.

Paul is asking why our Military is not hunting them down in Pakistan.

Shit even my Iraqi neighbor says the IED bombers in Iraq are coming from Pakistan, not Iran.



Your post about islamists, strapping bombs to Iraqis in Iraq, to kill Iraqis, has what to do Al Queda who are organized in Pakistan?

That incident you cited is a job for the Iraqi local law enforcement.

For someone who abhors a nanny state, are you not the least bit miffed that Iraq hasn't gotten their shit together yet and are still leaning on us for local policing and monetary aide?

While on this highly demented subject, Paul is also asking why are we are sending more weapons aide to Israeli enemies in Saudi Arabia if we say we are dedicated to be helping the Israelis out?


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7969131 - 02/02/08 03:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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It's not a cop out to not be interested in having yet another thread about how we never shoulda, woulda, coulda. This is a new thread, with a new question. Derail some Pub Super Bowl thread with this shit. Answer the question, "Should we surrender to people who strap bombs to retards and blow up other people simply going about their business?"

I know why this thread keeps getting derailed. Even the fucking kooks know I'm right, that we cannot afford to surrender.





Mr. Cain says that blowing peoples up is their businesses.

I love your rational for this thread. It's so deliciously neocon.
1. Post article which 'irrefutably' proves your position is justified while appealing to emotion and ignoring context.

2. Disregard refutations as being off-topic, and detractors as being 'kooks'. Congratulations, you is a winar!

now all you need is

3. ??????

4. PROFIT


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7969168 - 02/02/08 03:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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gettinjiggywithit said:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8QALM9G2&show_article=1

Search all over and you will find they are larger now, after we have been at war with them and spending mega billions, then they were before 9/11.




First line from your link:

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U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded al-Qaida has rebuilt its operating capability to a level not seen since just before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, The Associated Press has learned.




This is not an "exponential" increase.
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You'll also find that the organizers have been mostly hanging out in Pakistan all of this time, not Iraq.




There is also a loosely affilliated group known as al Q in Iraq. They appear to be the people who strapped the bombs to the retards.
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Ron Paul has been arguing ever since they fled Afghanistan for Pakistan that we should have followed them into Pakistan, and finished them off there, instead of staying behind in Afghanistan to Nation Build, and then attacking Iraq next.




Whoa, I thought he was against everything. If we left Afghanistan they would have come back. It would have been astonishingly dangerous to invade Pakistan considering that their leader was actually quite helpful. Further, I do believe we just recently blew up one of the top douches.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080131/ap_on_re_mi_ea/al_qaida_afghanistan
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Paul is still asking people why we are sending Billions in aide to an unelected Military dictator harboring Al Queda Organizers, all the while we are destroying a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, and are about to bomb another that had nothing to do with it.




Pakistan is not harboring them. They don't control all of their territory and not all terrorists are al Q.
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Paul is asking why our Military is not hunting them down in Pakistan.

Shit even my Iraqi neighbor says the IED bombers in Iraq are coming from Pakistan, not Iran.




I don't think that is correct. I think that al Q in Iraq is still mostly Saudi nationals. Not Saudi government agents, citizens.
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Your post about islamists, strapping bombs to Iraqis in Iraq, to kill Iraqis, has what to do Al Queda who are organized in Pakistan?




Loosely affiliated group in Iraq that calls itself al Q in Iraq.
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That incident you cited is a job for the Iraqi local law enforcement.

For someone who abhors a nanny state, are you not the least bit miffed that Iraq hasn't gotten their shit together yet and are still leaning on us for local policing and monetary aide?




Police services are not nanny state.
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While on this highly demented subject, Paul is also asking why are we are sending more weapons aide to Israeli enemies in Saudi Arabia if we say we are dedicated to be helping the Israelis out?




Saudi Arabia has never actually attacked Israel and I doubt that they would have the nerve. Paul doesn't give a fuck about Israel. I don't give a fuck about Paul.


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7969245 - 02/02/08 03:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

"Should we surrender to people who strap bombs to retards and blow up other people simply going about their business?"


I already answered this question. Can you read? Did you forget already? Or didn't you take time to notice before your got yourself all worked up and foamy.

Here, I'll help you old timer. :lol: But if you asked me I would just go home were I belonged. Problem solved.


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: Icelander]
    #7969280 - 02/02/08 03:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'll take that as a cleverly disguised "Yes", then.


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7969308 - 02/02/08 03:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Funny, I can imagine insurgents in Iraq asking eachother if they really want to surrender to cowards who blow families up from 20,000 feet.

Yet, that statement doesn't quite grasp everything involved in the decision does it and is equally as stupid as yours. I do not see why anybody is even humoring your question.


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: vintage_gonzo]
    #7969400 - 02/02/08 04:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

They're not. They are mostly ignoring it to get into utterly irrelevant nonsense. Just like you.


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7969438 - 02/02/08 04:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

People are ignoring it because it is a stupid fucking question. Got it yet?


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: vintage_gonzo]
    #7969445 - 02/02/08 04:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Nope, it's not. It is a very real question directly related to what they think we should do going ahead from here. Nothing you mentioned is a relevant response to "What do we do now?" and is thus masturbatory in nature. Keep touching yourself.


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7969452 - 02/02/08 04:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Nope, it's not. It is a very real question directly related to what they think we should do going ahead from here. Nothing you mentioned is a relevant response to "What do we do now?" and is thus masturbatory in nature. Keep touching yourself.




Ever the neo-con way. Decide where you are going without understanding how you got there.


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: vintage_gonzo]
    #7969461 - 02/02/08 04:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7969467 - 02/02/08 04:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Our government needs to make it clear that we will no prop up this government forever. Some sort of accountability from the Iraqis is necessary so they don't think they can suck on America's tit for the next 50 years and not do anything to help themselves.


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: Minstrel]
    #7969471 - 02/02/08 04:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Minstrel said:

Ever the neo-con way. Decide where you are going without understanding how you got there.




Somebody doesn't understand tense.


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7969495 - 02/02/08 04:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7969498 - 02/02/08 04:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

americans are wayyyy more evil than the martyr
even osama bin laden said how we nuked japan, and we nuked a completely untouched city, Nagasaki and Hiroshima, we had been fire bombing japan for months be4 the nuke, but we decided to nuke a city completely unscathed by american bombs
americans will easily kill millions of INNOCENT CIVILIANS and then when they kill our TROOPS, we are all like omg how can they do this by that means they are sooo evil
they dont have high tech ways of killing random people with their smart bombs, and those guided bombs kill so many innocent people
i think if i was in the same situation as the iraqis, i would react in the same manner


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: Coaster]
    #7969517 - 02/02/08 04:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Do you know what spell check is? Unscaved, mortars? What the fuck good are you?


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Re: Do you really want to surrender to this? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7969537 - 02/02/08 05:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No, it is a stupid non sequitur and you are ignorant for spouting it off and then acting like you said something ingenious. You never asked "what do we do now" you tried to equate responsibly leaving Iraq to surrendering to people who supposedly blow up retards. Don't you realize there are more issues at hand than just that? Do not be so dim. Yes that is horrible that those people would do something like that, but I don't ever remember it happening when Saddam was in power. Do you?


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