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Nem
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Fluorescent light in monotub
#7964762 - 02/01/08 12:42 PM (16 years, 12 hours ago) |
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I am contemplating putting a fluorescent light inside of a monotub for a super stealth grow. Does anyone see any problems with doing this? Like maybe the heat? Or would all be good?
Also does anyone know where I can find an 18" fluorescent bulb in the 6500 kelvin range? I found an 18" fixture at walmart that will fit but they don't have the proper heat range. I wanted to use that instead of the screw in style fluorescent bulbs because maybe it won't get as warm, the screw in style I am using now gets pretty warm
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: Nem]
#7964818 - 02/01/08 12:52 PM (16 years, 12 hours ago) |
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not only would heat be an issue, i believe it would also burn out and become a fire hazard. not many lights would be able to function properly and safely in an environment with such high humidity.
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: KillerPicklez]
#7964864 - 02/01/08 01:03 PM (16 years, 12 hours ago) |
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Correct. Lights with high voltage ballasts have no place in a high humidity environment. RR
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7966960 - 02/01/08 10:21 PM (16 years, 2 hours ago) |
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Good call, thanks for the feedback.
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: Nem]
#7966967 - 02/01/08 10:24 PM (16 years, 2 hours ago) |
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not to be a dick but could you not take the fluro tube and the end holders and remount them and have just the TUBE in the chamber??
ya can do what ever to the tube.
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: smily]
#7967255 - 02/01/08 11:54 PM (16 years, 1 hour ago) |
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wow really? i bought one of those 13'' fluoro tubes from mushymart and was using it in my FC for a while. nothing happened but it freaks me out that i could have burned down my house. i never even thought of that.
i was hoping to use the same thing in my monotub, but now i dont know how im gonna get sufficient light on it.
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: sonicnirvana]
#7967444 - 02/02/08 01:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can put your lights inside the monotube.Just put plastic wrap over the light fixture. It must have a plastic shield like the grow lights. Silicone the plastic wrap to the sides of the monotube. Its works great.
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: Cloneufc]
#7967463 - 02/02/08 01:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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you could try using blue LEDs, they create virtually no heat.
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: sonicnirvana]
#7967694 - 02/02/08 05:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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sonicnirvana said: wow really? i bought one of those 13'' fluoro tubes from mushymart and was using it in my FC for a while. nothing happened but it freaks me out that i could have burned down my house. i never even thought of that.
i was hoping to use the same thing in my monotub, but now i dont know how im gonna get sufficient light on it.
lighting isnt even significant for mushrooms. Just place one outside of your monotub, above the lid. in my experience mushrooms could really care less about how much light they receive
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: KillerPicklez]
#7967857 - 02/02/08 08:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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KillerPicklez said: lighting isnt even significant for mushrooms. Just place one outside of your monotub, above the lid. in my experience mushrooms could really care less about how much light they receive
Lighting is EXTREMELY important for a good pinset. Cubes will fruit in very low light conditions, but bright fluorescent light will help to trigger the pinsets the old timers show all the time that makes folks drool. Actually, you're probably right. The mushrooms don't care that much about light, but the mycelium sure as heck does.
Lights, especially fluroescent, should be OUTside the terrarium, but near enough to flood the fruiting chamber in bright, high frequency light. Don't put the ballast outside and the lamps inside. The tombstones have a fairly high voltage potiential across them, and wrapping a warm item in plastic in a wet environment is. . .dumb. There isn't much more useless than 'blue' mood lights, especially from led's. RR
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7967953 - 02/02/08 09:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have a Black light in my room , can i use it for my mushy ?
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: Thyrax]
#7967964 - 02/02/08 09:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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dont use a blacklight... you will start a fire if you have it inside the monotub... sooo.. just use some bright ass compact fluorescent lights outside the chamber and you will get a good pinset... it just needs to be bright enough outside the chamber to cover the casing in light...
you really dont want to mess around with 120v and water... very bad mixture that will knock your dick in the dirt... just be careful... but you wont have to if the light is outside the high humidity area
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#7967975 - 02/02/08 09:37 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I mean , can i use a black light outside the FC , Or the light I usualy use to light my room while do the job ?
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: Thyrax]
#7968005 - 02/02/08 09:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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black lights suck for mushies... they do not put out the right type of light to make a good pinset... just get a couple "energy saver" light bulbs.. the curley ones.. those are compact florescent... those will work just fine...
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: KillerPicklez]
#7978387 - 02/04/08 04:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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KillerPicklez said:
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sonicnirvana said: wow really? i bought one of those 13'' fluoro tubes from mushymart and was using it in my FC for a while. nothing happened but it freaks me out that i could have burned down my house. i never even thought of that.
i was hoping to use the same thing in my monotub, but now i dont know how im gonna get sufficient light on it.
lighting isnt even significant for mushrooms. Just place one outside of your monotub, above the lid. in my experience mushrooms could really care less about how much light they receive
dude... did you even read Hyphae's Pinning Strategy? It's in your signature...
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: sonicnirvana]
#7978468 - 02/04/08 04:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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KillerPicklez said:
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sonicnirvana said: wow really? i bought one of those 13'' fluoro tubes from mushymart and was using it in my FC for a while. nothing happened but it freaks me out that i could have burned down my house. i never even thought of that.
i was hoping to use the same thing in my monotub, but now i dont know how im gonna get sufficient light on it.
lighting isnt even significant for mushrooms. Just place one outside of your monotub, above the lid. in my experience mushrooms could really care less about how much light they receive
dude... did you even read Hyphae's Pinning Strategy? It's in your signature...
Yes I did, Its mainly there as a reference for other people. The old hands will say that 12-16 hours of light is best of OPTIMAL results. For people who dont want to deal with lighting, like myself, you can get by with just normal room lighting and that has worked fine for me.
Just because its in my signature doesnt mean I agree with their techniques 100%, just means I realize its a good reference material that is valuable to be shared with other people, without them digging it up themselves.
Everyone has their own way of doing stuff. You will find that some people agree with me that they get great results with minimal lighting, then you will find other people who have been doing this for years and have very nice setups with lights and timers and say that for OPTIMAL results use a specific light cycle.
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: KillerPicklez]
#7978548 - 02/04/08 04:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Correct. A 60 watt light bulb on the ceiling is enough to trigger a few pins. Failure to use proper lighting doesn't mean the entire project is going to fail. It simply means it will be less than what could be achieved by a tad more work.
It's sort of like driving your car with one tire flat. You'll still get there, but not as fast, and people will point and giggle. RR
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7978572 - 02/04/08 04:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: It's sort of like driving your car with one tire flat. You'll still get there, but not as fast, and people will point and giggle. RR
Ahh you're soo cheeky with your analogies. I respect you a lot, ive read tons of information and learned a lot from you.
Heres my flat tire:
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7978580 - 02/04/08 05:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lighting does make a HUGE difference in pinsets.
Pinsets triggered using a decent 16 Watt CFL:
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: Spire]
#7978632 - 02/04/08 05:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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in short we are agreeing but agruing about something stupid. Yes lighting is important and needed for optimal results. but you arent wasting your time if you dont have a light. you can still get fairly good results.
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: Nem]
#7979656 - 02/04/08 08:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have a fluor. light in my FC only because it I'm too lazy to cut the tub and replace it with a clear sheet of plastic its been working out fine for me, a little raise in temp but no biggie as for fire hazard - been using it for a while and havent seen anything go wrong, + I'm home when I turn it on
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: mikeytro]
#7979731 - 02/04/08 08:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have done the same thing and yeah it raised my temps a bit but i think i almost like it better. Did you stick it just straight inside the FC, or did you drill a hole and stick one down like off of the wall or FC Top?
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#7979870 - 02/04/08 08:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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DJYoshaBYD said: dont use a blacklight... you will start a fire if you have it inside the monotub... sooo....Quote:
Blacklights will only cause genetic mutations...THEY WONT START A FIRE...who told you this?...
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DJYoshaBYD said: black lights suck for mushies.Quote:
They just cause genetic mutations and can kill spores.
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I'm glad someone started this thread. I plan on stacking several monotubs and wasn't sure of a solution on how to get them all lighted evenly. My first thought was to put 18" fluoro's from one of the sponsors on the inside of the lid of each one. But of course I'm worried about humidity, fire hazards and temperatures. Yet I can't think of any other option for even high quality lighting.
Maybe I'll just have to make some shelves in the closet to leave a space above each tub for a light. Thus avoiding having to put one inside. It'll be more work, but should be worth it for the better pinset.
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SomeScienceStuff said: I have done the same thing and yeah it raised my temps a bit but i think i almost like it better. Did you stick it just straight inside the FC, or did you drill a hole and stick one down like off of the wall or FC Top?
I just stuck the damn thing right on top its propped up diagonally on the top of the FC right below where I put the lid on it was just chance that the size was perfect and is supported by the sides hey I'm happy and I'm getting the best pin set I have ever got with the first time using this method.
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Edited by mikeytro (02/04/08 08:57 PM)
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: mikeytro]
#12155362 - 03/06/10 06:27 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know this is an old thread, but I need to do some obligatory posts after having this account so long. I'm sure I'm going to end up repeating myself if the threads I choose have RR's two cents in them. After lots of reading and my next batch in the works--(3rd;getting better after many corners cut)...I would like to mainly thank RR, headyhempwraps420, and all the other "old-timers" who have the patience to cut through the BS and give a simple answer.
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I don't know if anyone has said this yet but what I'm doing is putting a stick up LED light in a plastic bag and taping that to the lid.
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Re: Fluorescent light in monotub [Re: emrandel]
#12155531 - 03/06/10 06:55 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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emrandel said: I'm glad someone started this thread. I plan on stacking several monotubs and wasn't sure of a solution on how to get them all lighted evenly. My first thought was to put 18" fluoro's from one of the sponsors on the inside of the lid of each one. But of course I'm worried about humidity, fire hazards and temperatures. Yet I can't think of any other option for even high quality lighting.
Maybe I'll just have to make some shelves in the closet to leave a space above each tub for a light. Thus avoiding having to put one inside. It'll be more work, but should be worth it for the better pinset.
if the tubs are clear just mount the light on the wall, or find a way to stand it up vertically and place tubs around it, with the light in the middle and let the light shine through the sides of the tubs.
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