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Donate Today For Freedom!
#7963666 - 02/01/08 06:56 AM (16 years, 21 hours ago) |
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One of the greatest anomalies of this presidental race has been the rise of a new movement in politics, in which average people have organized themselves, largely through the Internet, to put forward a candidate that would have otherwise not stood a chance of getting this far, a man that stands for the ideals that this country was founded upon.
With today's corporate media and a government that has no remorse for taking money from people for catastrophic spending and for taking the value of that money from you by printing it, printing it, printing it, and then borrowing billions from other nations so they can spend even more, stacking the cards agansit our chance of having a prosperous future, having a candidate put forth by the people like this, and seeing him accomplish so much in the face of a corporate/government system hell-bent on controlling our lives, taking away our wealth by crippling our economy with their spending and creating inflation is one of the most inspiring things I've seen.
The fact that Ron Paul's campaign has accomplished so much and persevered in the face of all this is a great sign that there is still hope for this country, mostly due to the fact that there have been hundreds of thousands of people who have voted and donated for him, and have worked to keep him going to spread the truth.
Ron Paul has said that, as long as his supporters continue to donate, he will continue to run. Today the grass-roots is donating for the 51st wedding anniversary of himself and his wife, Carol. He's defeated candidates praised by the media as front-runners several times and continued on as they drop out of the race, and he's taken second place in two states. While the chances of him winning the Republican nomination have slimmed, it is likely that one to two more candidates will drop out after Super Tuesday, leaving him in to continue to battle in the dozens of remaining states, head-to-head with a man who has received barely any donations from American people, and has simply been crowned by the corporate media.
Of course, this has less to do with winning the nomination and much more to do with making a stand and getting the message out, saving the Republic. Ron Paul's continued presence has accomplished great things in this regard, and what is really most important is the rippling effect he has had with the American people.
If you have ever thought that it made no sense for the government to take away your right to decide for yourself if you will injest drugs, then donate today, because Ron Paul is standing for the principle that we are free to do so, and has expressed as much in the mainstream media. Of course, this is just a sliver of what Ron Paul's message is and what he stands for, but I'm not going to type forever.
$1, $5, $20, $100... what matters most is the amount of people who are expressing that they believe in this.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
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spud
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Fuck Ron Paul.
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fireworks_god
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Re: Donate Today For Freedom! [Re: spud]
#7964371 - 02/01/08 11:14 AM (16 years, 17 hours ago) |
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Thanks for your opinion.
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Re: Donate Today For Freedom! [Re: spud]
#7964390 - 02/01/08 11:18 AM (16 years, 16 hours ago) |
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spud said: Fuck Ron Paul.
i agree! if you look at what the previously republican controlled government has done to this country in the last 8 years. hell it just makes me sick.
oh and can we get this thread moved , seems there is nothing in this thread that has to do with cultivation
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Do you have a referal email?
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Why keep pouring money into a black hole?
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To be heard.
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Re: Donate Today For Freedom! [Re: Cowgold]
#7964432 - 02/01/08 11:27 AM (16 years, 16 hours ago) |
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There are better ways to be heard than to become part of some aggregate figure that Ron Paul displays as a sign of success even in defeat when he inevitably drops out of the race.
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brainsOplenty said: i agree! if you look at what the previously republican controlled government has done to this country in the last 8 years. hell it just makes me sick.
If you're determining a candidate's merit by their party affiliation, then you're so uninformed that it is kind of sickening.
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He represents some of the core bullshit issues that are, for the most part, overlooked. And because he's pushing these bullshit issues, I don't have to. I can go on about my life and not worry about bullshit politics. Giving a little is a hell of a lot cheaper than donating my time to bullshit. Politics is too frustrating to me. I feel sure that he probably won't win, but I still want him to push his bullshit issues.
Plus, I'll spend my money on whatever I want.
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Freedom = biodiesel fuel, solar power, homegrown veggies, home brewed beer, etc.
Want to change the world? Do what it takes to get free from dependence on large corporations.
The game is rigged, Hillary has already been chosen, WE HAVE NO CHOICE other than what systems we support with our $!
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OneLessForeskin said: Why keep pouring money into a black hole?
It isn't a black hole. The black hole is what has been leading this country down this course for decades.
Who is pouring money into a black hole? Every single American is.
Have you ever heard of the federal income tax? Surely most here have been conditioned to pay it, probably never even questioned the fact that they pay it, likely think it is some kind of necessity that they pay into it... The deficit spending is getting insane, they continue to print money, destroying the dollar, thinking that these rate cuts are actually helping prevent the inevitable, and then these idiots propose to the American people that they are going to cut welfare checks as though it is going to save the economy... Newsflash - INCREASED FEDERAL SPENDING IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM. They are either as stupid as some people around here or they are intentionally doing this...
And then you suggest that supporting the voice that stands out agansit THE black hole is simply tossing money away?

Some people see this and they want the only man positioned to speak out and reach the American people to make a fucking stand. So, they donate. Some people are either too ignorant or complacent to willfully allowing a government to take money from people, SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND IT, but to not stop there, but to also BORROW BORROW BORROW IT, and then to suck the remaining wealth from the poeple by PRINTING IT PRINTING IT PRINTING IT PRINTING IT. And the answer to all of this? Increased federal spending to send out welfare checks to people?
If they were honest or intelligent in seeking to help the economy, they would get the government out of the way by slashing spending and slashing taxes. If they really wanted to help the American people, they wouldn't tax the money in the first place.
They could theoretically say that, well, for this paycheck, no taxes will be taken out. Of course, this is impossible, because America's financial situation is a delicate house of cards, and that money has been borrowed several times over before they have even taken it from you.
And what do you get when you look to the field of presidental candiates? A whole line of morons who don't have any sense of monetary policy, no understanding of the economy.
For instance, you have people like McCain who shifts discussion to Iraq to avoid the fact that he has no sense of the economy, even though the public has become less and less concerned about Iraq as the deep recession we are facing threatens to take away our livelihood. You then have him assert when Ron Paul stands face-to-face with Romney and McCain that he agrees with Ron Paul, that he wants to cut spending, but yet he won't look to the one place that he could cut the MOST spending, all within sole authority of the President - bring the troops home from Iraq, bring them home from Korea, bring them home from Germany and Japan...
Its a proven fact that it costs about a trillion dollars to maintain our troop presence overseas every year, which is pretty much the same amount of money they are taking from you in federal income taxes.
When Ron Paul stands up on national television and speaks directly regarding all of this, referring to our empire, referring to the inevitable that the government is taking away from Americans to inflict on the American people, probably just from the incompetance most have been conditioned with, most see it as well worth the investment to keep him going.
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OneLessForeskin said: There are better ways to be heard than to become part of some aggregate figure that Ron Paul displays as a sign of success even in defeat when he inevitably drops out of the race.
Please tell me how YOU are going to stand up and tell the federal government to stop taking your money and ruining your country with their spending of it, with their devaluing of it by printing it, and by their ensuring they will take more from you by borrowing it.
A ten-term Congressmen who has received more funding from more Americans than nearly any other candidate, certainly on the Republican side, who has a consistent voting record, and is actually appearing on national television in the debates is facing a huge rip-tide of movement towards the abyss. He's been fighting, fighting, fighting agansit this for thirty years, right now is the culmination, in which hundreds of thousands of Americans have already voted and donated for him. A global, corporate/political machine pre-excluded him and continue to work agansit him. Dirty tricks in the media as well as in state caucuses have been well-documented.
Fact is, Ron Paul has had a great amount of success for someone fighting such an up-hill battle. As the only candidate put forth by the American people, solely and truly, it only makes sense to keep fighting, keep him going as long and as hard as he can, because we're looking to push ourselves far enough ahead now that we can be in a position to lay the foundation for a turning point in it all. This isn't about winning the Presidency, but its surely about fighting for it and making our voice heard, creating a new movement to turn the tide in the favor of the people.
Surely some people who have never really fought for this and are so quick to write off continuing to support him can easily say "ahh there are better ways to get your voice heard", but talk is cheap, and no one is really listening to them.
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Re: Donate Today For Freedom! [Re: Middleman]
#7964632 - 02/01/08 12:14 PM (16 years, 15 hours ago) |
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Middleman said: Freedom = biodiesel fuel, solar power, homegrown veggies, home brewed beer, etc.
Want to change the world? Do what it takes to get free from dependence on large corporations.
Exactly! Change isn't just in the political arena, but actually participating by supporting the one candiate who truly understands what is happening and seeks to act in our interest, so that we are given the opportunity to be free, is crucial. Collective efforts are much easier.
Besides, none of that is going to be possible if the means to do so is removed by crippling our economy and taxing your private property.
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The game is rigged, Hillary has already been chosen, WE HAVE NO CHOICE other than what systems we support with our $!
To some extent, the corporate/political world are pushing her forward, but this doesn't mean it is inevitable. A strong effort in every precint ensures the American people are actually informed of what they won't say and brings them out to vote.
Its so easy to write off someone in Ron Paul, but the fact is that he represents a new force in politics that never existed, and they are learning fast. It might be too late to get him the Republican nomination, but what the grass-roots has accomplished in such a short time, facing such a curve agansit them, is truly amazing.
I also encourage everyone to check out the precint captain program on his official website. I believe they have already registered 15,000 people, and this is by far the most effective way to win. There have been well-documented cases of Ron Paul winning counties in Iowa, precints in Florida and Nevada, etc., all due to a strong, local effort. If you want to win, bypass the system and get straight to the people. This is something the movement could not have been prepared for, but they learned fast and they are still out there making it happen.
The simple fact remains that this isn't over.
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A: Why is this stickied? Can we get a "Donate to Barack Obama" post stickied?
B: I knew you were lying when you said you would shut up if Paul didn't win Iowa. People like you can never manage to keep themselves quiet.
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OneLessForeskin said: There are better ways to be heard than to become part of some aggregate figure that Ron Paul displays as a sign of success even in defeat when he inevitably drops out of the race.
Please tell me how YOU are going to stand up and tell the federal government to stop taking your money and ruining your country with their spending of it, with their devaluing of it by printing it, and by their ensuring they will take more from you by borrowing it.
I have zero intent of explaining my personal political motives or expressions to the smug likes of yourself, I'll wait for someone who doesn't throw smirks and lol-smileys out after everything they say. Conversation with you in the realm of politics is an utter turn-off.
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Ron Paul is Anti-Choice and has a rather repressive, racist immigration policy. A lot of people around here seem to jump on the bandwagon with his appealing views on drug use, but he is a traditional right wing Libertarian. In the current American political climate, he may seem exciting and radical but he isn't. He's on the far end of the right wing.
Do you people who like him so much actually know what his entire platform is? Sure he's got a few appealing items on there, but he's got some nasty stuff on there too. His policies on abortion, immigration and social services are frightening.
Take a look at this America: This is the spectrum of choice you have. It's a sad state of affairs.
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Madtowntripper said: A: Why is this stickied? Can we get a "Donate to Barack Obama" post stickied?
It is stickied because I created the thread, contacted the administration, requested this be globally stickied for the day, they decided to sticky it, and then you saw it and made your stupid post. Is reality that hard to comprehend?
Also, maybe if your candidate wasn't a single-term bag of hot air that has no real stance on any issue and no chance of taking on Hillary Clinton, then maybe your thread you haven't made and haven't requested to be stickied would get stickied. You need to be more proactive, apparently.
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B: I knew you were lying when you said you would shut up if Paul didn't win Iowa. People like you can never manage to keep themselves quiet.
My statement was regarding predictions and analysis of how the race would occur. People like you can never manage to understand reality if it smacked them in the face, apparently. Backing a candidate who does not speak for cutting federal spending, even if they don't mean it, should be the first clue regarding that.
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OneLessForeskin said: I have zero intent of explaining my personal political motives or expressions to the smug likes of yourself, I'll wait for someone who doesn't throw smirks and lol-smileys out after everything they say. Conversation with you in the realm of politics is an utter turn-off.
Translation: Its simple for you to make quick one-liners, but as soon as a substansial discussion is thrown down regarding ideas, you'd rather make up excuses about simple emoticons than stand up agansit what was actually said.
on better ways to get the message out. I don't smirk nearly as much as John McCain does, doesn't stop Ron Paul from standing up to him on national television. You have a long way to go, pup.
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