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Peterthinks
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: Peterthinks]
#7969751 - 02/02/08 05:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You may as well make the jump from steamer to pressure cooker right away, it will save you some hassle and a shaky start.
What you have will pasteurize and take twice as long as a small pressure cooker. Contaminants curl up into little protective cysts that may survive pasteurization and start to eat your stuff when it cools.
If you insist on using the steamer keep your BRF jars somewhere for a week after you cook them and discard any that start growing stuff. Any that don't start growing stuff can be inoculated with a good chance of success.
After all you wouldn't want to waste your only print would you?
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Cloneufc
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: Peterthinks]
#7970041 - 02/02/08 07:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I dont understand why people get into this hobby and cant buy a $50 pressure cooker. I mean this is an extremely cheap hobby. Try auto racing where one part will cost you $200. Any adult who cant afford to buy a pressure cooker should not even attempt to grow. I think this forum is filled with under aged kids who have no jobs. Get a PC do it right then your rewards will be equal to your effort.
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kameleon
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: KillerPicklez]
#7970890 - 02/02/08 10:00 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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KillerPicklez said: Personally id sterilize them just to be on the safe side, itd suck to waste a print then end up contaminating your entire grow because of 30 mins of sterilizing, ya know?
Point taken, Killer.
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kameleon
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: Peterthinks]
#7970900 - 02/02/08 10:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Peterthinks said: You may as well make the jump from steamer to pressure cooker right away, it will save you some hassle and a shaky start.
What you have will pasteurize and take twice as long as a small pressure cooker. Contaminants curl up into little protective cysts that may survive pasteurization and start to eat your stuff when it cools.
If you insist on using the steamer keep your BRF jars somewhere for a week after you cook them and discard any that start growing stuff. Any that don't start growing stuff can be inoculated with a good chance of success.
After all you wouldn't want to waste your only print would you?
I'll take your advice, Pete. Will sterilise them then leave for a week prior to inoculation. I'm not in a rush anyway.
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: kameleon]
#7970907 - 02/02/08 10:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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To sterilize syringes, I dont even use a PC. I just boil them for 30-40 minutes. That has always worked for me. Ive always been skeptical of putting syringes into a PC, im too worried they would melt on me.
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kameleon
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: Cloneufc]
#7970934 - 02/02/08 10:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cloneufc said: I dont understand why people get into this hobby and cant buy a $50 pressure cooker. I mean this is an extremely cheap hobby. Try auto racing where one part will cost you $200. Any adult who cant afford to buy a pressure cooker should not even attempt to grow. I think this forum is filled with under aged kids who have no jobs. Get a PC do it right then your rewards will be equal to your effort.
There are alot of things in this world that we do not understand. Me not wanting to get a pressure cooker at this point in time is one of them for you to decipher if it bothers you that much
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Peterthinks
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: KillerPicklez]
#7985011 - 02/05/08 10:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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KillerPicklez said: To sterilize syringes, I dont even use a PC. I just boil them for 30-40 minutes. That has always worked for me. Ive always been skeptical of putting syringes into a PC, im too worried they would melt on me.
You can PC them.you can even do it with water in them and you have one ready to make spore syringes with. just squirt and suck....or is that porn, I get em mixed up.
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kameleon
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: Peterthinks]
#8092827 - 03/02/08 07:12 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the tips, Peter.
Its been awhile and i've been slacking even though i've gotten everything i need. I've followed your advice on steam sterilising the jars prior to inoculation and letting them sit for 1 week. These were the 3 jars that were packed and ready for sterilisation on 10 Feb. The thing i realised was that the substrate looks very dry, and not like those that i saw in the literature that looked more 'sludgy'. I just followed the recommended amounts of water, BRF & Verm.

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kameleon
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: kameleon]
#8092851 - 03/02/08 07:29 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Once the jars were given the all clear from contamination, I proceeded to make my syringe from the print. I decided to avoid more possibilities of contamination by using a new syringe and not sterilising it for fear that i might screw it up! One mistake i realised i made after inoculation was that I waited for the sterilised water to cool completely before opening the new syringe and needle to suck up the water and mix it with the spores. I should have sucked the water once its been sterilised and let it cool in the syringe.
Good thing was that its been 17 days and there's no sign of contamination in the 3 inoculated jars. Here's the jars on 27 Feb. All 3 jars inoculated showing nice signs of growth, with one jar slightly slower than the other 2.

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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: kameleon]
#8092876 - 03/02/08 07:55 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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You should really get some finer graded verm! There's so much airholes in between your verm layer, that it wouldn't be too hard for contams to get through...
Good luck with your grow, though
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kameleon
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: kameleon]
#8092881 - 03/02/08 07:59 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I will be getting my terrarium ready in the next couple of weeks. I will be using the storage container and wet perlite method to get humidity up as high as possible. I've done quite a lot of reading up to the point of inoculation but haven't done much research on birthing and beyond. I remember i read from some post about dunking the birthed cakes in water and also on 'casing'.
Can someone please give me a link to some literature or posts on the 2 subjects as I hardly get the chance to get on the internet. Please just ignore if you don't feel like helping out.
cheers
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kameleon
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: Fahkface]
#8092889 - 03/02/08 08:03 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fahkface said: You should really get some finer graded verm! There's so much airholes in between your verm layer, that it wouldn't be too hard for contams to get through...
Good luck with your grow, though
Yeah i know, face. It was way coarser than what you see in the pics. I had to open the pack of verm up and rubbed them down as much as i could to get it to whats in the pics. That was the only place i know where to get verm from and would look for finer grades for my next grow. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: kameleon]
#8092914 - 03/02/08 08:13 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why don't you just order some from ebay? You can get all grades you want from there and it doesn't really cost too much. At least when you get a big sack full of it.
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implee
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: kameleon]
#8092922 - 03/02/08 08:18 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Try walmart or lowes or home depot or any plant store in America.
I could only find the ultra thin vermiculite
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perlinpinpin
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: Peterthinks]
#8093253 - 03/02/08 10:44 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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just use drinking glass with foil over it and rubber band like in the pf-tek here
http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek
thats what i did, i got mine at the dollard store near my house, 4 for 1$
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kameleon
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: perlinpinpin]
#8244553 - 04/05/08 09:50 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its been awhile since i last updated my grow. The golden teachers have just had their first flush that i harvested yesterday. They are sitting infront of the fan to dry out now. Tonight, I will clean the cake up, give them another dunk, ready for the second flush.
I used the dunk tek to make sure i get a good harvest. I put 2 of the cakes into seperate zip lock bags and left them in the fridge overnight for 18 hours. After that i transfered them to a terrarium that i built with a container and damp pearlite. I fan it about 4 times a day and the temperature & humidity's around 24 degrees C, and 80+% respectively.
I did not realise that it was so easy growing them, and I would say the most difficult part for me was acquiring all the required materials and making do with what i could get my hands on.
What I realised was that sterilising the containers and mixture was the most crucial bit for me as I used new needles and syringes for innocultation. Waiting a week for the sterilised mixture to show any contamination was a very good idea that i employed. Once i got past that, everything was smooth sailing.
Here's a few pictures post incubation with the few growths coming out. I've got a few more pics of the harvested quantity that i'll post later.

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kameleon
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: kameleon]
#8244623 - 04/05/08 10:06 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here are a few more pics of the harvest.


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kameleon
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: kameleon]
#8244650 - 04/05/08 10:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've got a couple of questions before i think about consuming them after they've dried properly. I noticed that there's mold growing at the base of nearly every mushroom... is that normal? I'm not quite sure if you could pick it up from the pics. What I did was to cut the moldy part off, but while i did that the cut turned blue.
Is that normal as well?

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Xobil3
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: kameleon]
#8244696 - 04/05/08 10:24 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe when you handle p. cubensis mushrooms, when they bruise they are suppose to turn blue. So I guess thats a good sign
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zouden
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Re: 1st Grow, Golden Teacher on BRF & Verm. Need as much input as I go along. [Re: Xobil3]
#8245133 - 04/06/08 12:29 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah that's not mould.
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