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zhero
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Crazy? Stealth grow idea
#7961441 - 01/31/08 06:26 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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well i been reading here for over 2 years without registering, grown many pf cakes, but i now have a reason to because i have a crazy idea i need opinions on...
My idea is since myc use light to decide where to grow, you chould make your casing at sort of and slope in a short container, and have the whole clear box, except the side the casing is angled twords painted black. this way light only comes from the side, and the fruits should grow sideways twords the light allowing you to fit it under the bed. think it whuold work?
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HybridprX
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Re: Crazy? Stealth grow idea [Re: zhero]
#7961452 - 01/31/08 06:28 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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Light does not matter for pin production, yes it does benefit pin sets but is it absolutely necessary, no.
top down, side, angle, they'll grow just the same.
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Re: Crazy? Stealth grow idea [Re: HybridprX]
#7961477 - 01/31/08 06:34 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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HybridprX said: Light does not matter for pin production, yes it does benefit pin sets but is it absolutely necessary, no.
top down, side, angle, they'll grow just the same.
Um, says you.
Light, while not essential, does matter and is a very important factor for optimal pin production.
Two things regarding this idea.
a) The pins will form on the exposed to air surface, be that on top, or on the side, so make sure that the surface you want to pin is the only one exposed to fae, humidity and the light.
b) Keeping a) in mind, how are you going to stop the substrate from sliding down when you put it on it's side. I imagine it will tend to crumble and fall to the bottom.
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Re: Crazy? Stealth grow idea [Re: Nibin]
#7961558 - 01/31/08 06:50 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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maximum potential is reached at 480 nanometers of light in the blue spectrum according to "the mushroom cultivator"
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Re: Crazy? Stealth grow idea [Re: flushme]
#7961616 - 01/31/08 06:59 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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flushme said: maximum potential is reached at 480 nanometers of light in the blue spectrum according to "the mushroom cultivator"
Nanometers is a measure of light wavelength (or colour) not of intensity (which is what it sounds like the way you have worded it) which means that 480nm is in the blue spectrum. There is no way it can be out of it. You can't have light that has a 480nm wavelength and is in the red spectrum (red is around 700nm).
It's not personal, but correction of terms is important as it can get confusing.
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Re: Crazy? Stealth grow idea [Re: Nibin]
#7961657 - 01/31/08 07:08 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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i read light tells them which way to grow, i only want them to grow sideways-ish so they can fruit under a bed
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HybridprX
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Re: Crazy? Stealth grow idea [Re: zhero]
#7961696 - 01/31/08 07:17 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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a lot of books say a lot of things, experience says all.
as long as it gets 12 on 12 off, natural or artificial you wont notice a difference, I've used L.E.D lighting and saw no difference in the amount of pins produced but when hooked up to a humidifier the abort rate is much less.
proper FAE and humidity give you the pin set not the light. Mushrooms are none photosynthesis.
Once the pinset has been established reducing light to a hour a day is sufficient although some will argue. but hey, live and learn.
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Re: Crazy? Stealth grow idea [Re: zhero]
#7963009 - 02/01/08 12:27 AM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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zhero said: i read light tells them which way to grow, i only want them to grow sideways-ish so they can fruit under a bed
Yes, shrooms are phototropic but you have to fruit them inside a fruiting chamber in any case, so why not just keep that under your bed and pull it out to fan and mist? If the sides of the FC let light through they will grow towards that light.
HybridprX , light wavelength IS important. The difference between using a 6000k bulb and a much redder light is very noticeable. Intensity is also important, too weak a light and it won't penetrate the casing layer.
If you needed to hook up a humidifier when the light was on, it sounds like the light was increasing temps too much and so decreasing the RH (needing a humidifier to recompensate).
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